Sfl E-mag....booooo!

[Load SM5]

Not a whole lot. You feel like going to B'ham tomorrow morning? Heck, E-mail me so we don't hog up the thread with a conversation. [email protected]

[stooks]

Wish I could but I have to work.. Do you have AIM or something.. It would end up being a lot easier to talk that way

[Dude]

IMO manual mode is totally over-rated. With a zero memory battery that is good for about 20,000 shots, people should be able to keep the battery charged enough to play any time they want.

Also, what is the point of shooting 20bps? You sure can not do it in semi, and most field won't let you use full auto, so what is the point of 20bps full auto, besides showing it off?

[2000Sabre]

The SFL E-Mag is a great marker when it works. Is it perfect. No it's not. I think the posts on this forum point that out. However, given the right amount of time AGD will work out the kinks that I believe exist with this marker and make it into one of the great products we expect. If you're considering buying one I would suggest waiting until the design and product are more mature. Based on what we're hearing as far as the upcoming design changes, it sounds like it will be a great product eventually. In my opinion, it's just not one right now.

[Load SM5]

Dude- Manual is not too overrated. My electronics went down in midgame when a driving rain feel on us. I flipped to manual and played on. Later when the board dried everything was fine and I switched back.

Stooks- I do but I'm going to turn in in a few minutes so I can get up early and drive for an hour or so.

[BlackVCG]

The SFL unfortunately doesn't have any of the new anti-ball breakage and ACE upgrades. These will all come on the new Xtremes once they are released.

I don't think the SFL should have ever been released until they got everything fixed in terms of ball breakage. There was just such a high demand for the new style E-Mag that SFL got some to mill and sell as SFL's.

I do know that the new design for the Xtreme is unbelievable. Once the standard Xtreme gets released, it will be easier on paint than any other gun.

[Load SM5]

Originally posted by BlackVCG
The SFL unfortunately doesn't have any of the new anti-ball breakage and ACE upgrades.

Well, not yet But as long as it's an upgrade I'm fine with it.

I agree though they should've worked all the bugs out first. Although mine has been fairly bugless.

[mountaindud]

$1400 is too much to pay for any gun and the SFL is hardly better than the AGD E-Mag. I'll stick with my ReTro MiniMag for a long time.

[Butterfingers]

IMHO the only thing better is that it looks prettier and is lighter. Donggie probably will agree with me. He sold his SFL and stuck with his black stainless E-mag.

Nothing like good old beat over the head steel body durablity. Im not afraid of throwing my e-mag around worrying about scratching it while I play.

The only time I chopped paint in this gun was during full auto testing for the e-magnum at 20 BPS with a warp and revy.

Ive broke a total of 4 balls in the barrel with my e-mag ever since I had it.

Id say wait till the extremes come out or find yourself a good deal on a SS model. I can tell you with a warp ACE is NOT needed.

[InfinatyBPS]

From what I have heard SFLs arent worth the $1500, nothing special at all, oooo, it has an eye, well so does a $500 intimidator or impulse. So umm ya. It has an aluminum body, what other gun dosent? I know that its probably a nice gun and all but, just dosent seem worth the $1500 If I was rich and had money to waste then I would probably would buy one but scince I dont, Im not...

[Oregon_pb_]

If i had to pick an IR3, or an SFL. I'd probably pick the IR3, just barely. If i had to pick between an IR3 or a Extreme Emag, Extreme every single time. Warp body, interchangeable breech. ACE, Lighter than older emags, the trigger on the emag is like none other.


On this forum i doubt anyone hasn't at least shot an emag, but on other forums alot of people say stuff, then you ask if they've ever seen/used the gun and they haven't.

Overall its apples and oranges. I Currently own a Custom Cocker, and a Bonebrake LED (Angel). I like them both very much, but when the extremes come out i think the angel will get the axe.


Chris

[FooTemps]

Originally posted by Oregon_pb_
If i had to pick an IR3, or an SFL. I'd probably pick the IR3, just barely. If i had to pick between an IR3 or a Extreme Emag, Extreme every single time. Warp body, interchangeable breech. ACE, Lighter than older emags, the trigger on the emag is like none other.


On this forum i doubt anyone hasn't at least shot an emag, but on other forums alot of people say stuff, then you ask if they've ever seen/used the gun and they haven't.

Overall its apples and oranges. I Currently own a Custom Cocker, and a Bonebrake LED (Angel). I like them both very much, but when the extremes come out i think the angel will get the axe.


Chris

You forgot the anti-chop parts in the extreme... stuff like the new bolt/spacer/spring setup.

[RSUAVE911]

Until, AGD really solves the chopping problem, I will never ever buy a 1400-1500 dollar gun from them. I do not care if your gun doesn't chop or if ONE time you went out and your gun did not chop because most likely a MAG is going to chop more than any other because it is high pressure. I have owned an RT and EMAG. If I am spending that kind of dough on a paintball gun it has to everything that a paintball gun can offer and be close to perfect as possible. Just because you do not need those features does not mean they should not be an option. It would just be really cool to have them. I know the IR3, correct me if I am wrong because I think I am but on a full battery charge it is something crazy like 500,000 now do you really think you battery is going to die out in a middle of a game. Maybe the board might explode or something like that but the battery will certainly not die in a game.

The fact of the matter is in tournaments and professional teams, what markers are they using? Cockers and Angels mostly. You very very rarely see an E-MAG, and until AGD fixes the bugs in a 1400 dollar marker, no one is going to buy it. That is the BOTTOMLINE!

[cphilip]

Until AGD completely finishes one that comes right out of AGD's assembly room I am waiting.

[Croix71]

Originally posted by Load SM5
I am extremelly happy with my SFL. It's preformed great. Last time I was out I shot 3/4 of a case with no chops or breaks. And they all flew like darts. I love this gun.

I Guess I was right, the # of disatisfied SFL owners outnumber the satisfied owners.