Why Is Titanium not used in Paintball

[Cliffio]

aluminum would make horrible bolts

they take too much force to be made from aluminum

your gonna ruin an aluminum bolt REALLY easy

Cliff

[Cliffio]

but plastic is 100x cheaper than aluminum

[Hexis]

Originally posted by lilthugbobby
would last longer than darwin or plastic like supper bolt

Does darwin last longer than delrin?

Survival of the fittest materials?

[MagDog68]

LoL Hexis - you beat me to it.

~Fred

[Spaceman613]

Am I the only one confused about what Cliffio was trying to say about nitrogen?

I think he may be confusing nitrous oxide and nitrogen....

[Shaft]

Originally posted by Cliffio


but we dont use "nitrogen" we use N2
which has totally differnt properties than stright nitrogen

ever tried to "huff" N2??
wont work, know why? n2 is a different chemical make-up and wont have the same effect

I concur Spaceman...
Clifio... WHAR?!?!!

[bob87]

can we make N2 tanks out of titanium? that might make a light wate tank that is smaller that the fiber thanks

[Spaceman613]

Smaller? How, the volume would be smaller too. Besides, I dont think tanks weigh all that much. The fiber is strong becuase it is wrapped around the tank, using the tensile strength of the fiber to hold the aluminum inner tank together.

Ti just doesnt have too many practical and useful places in paintball. In fact, I cant think of one place where it would be a benefit. Annodized aluminum is ver durable and looks good. Where more strength is needed, we use carbon fiber, fiberglass, or Stainless Steel.

I think the only reason this is even brought up, is because DYE makes the Ti-boomer, and the metal is still considered "exotic." Most people dont understand how and why materials are selected in engineering and production.

Heck, I still like brass as a barrel material :)

[Hexis]

We don't use Nitrogen (which in it's normal state is n2). We use HPA. High Pressure Air.

At least I have never seen a field filling tanks with purified nitrogen.

It would be a waste. "Air" is about 78% Nitrogen (n2) and 21% Oxygen (o2). There are other things in there, but all under 1%.

[DiRTyBuNNy]

How about Ti Drops?

[Spaceman613]

I have seen N2 being used as propellant. There is no permormance difference, so whatever a field/team has access to at the best cost is what they use. Some may use N2, most use hpa...

But I HAVE seen it, and I have read about tournaments using it in the recent past in the ragazines

[Spaceman613]

Originally posted by DiRTyBuNNy
How about Ti Drops?

Aluminum works well for drops. Ti would be heavier unless there is physically less material. At that point, you may have flexing of the drop.

Aluminum can also be matched in the pretty colors of your gun too...

[Cliffio]

Originally posted by Spaceman613
in the ragazines

HEY SCOOBY.........[music]scooby dooby do where are you...[/music]

anyways, what i was trying to get at is that, we dont use pure nitrogen, so it wouldnt react with Ti

altho i went about it all wrong, its what i meant:)

Cliff

[Fred]

I am having trouble seeing how N2 (which has NO free electrons to do any reacting with) will do anything with Titanium.

I'm not sure if Titanium corrodes, I think it is like Aluminum in that it forms an oxide layer, but I don't know the facts exactly.

Nitrogen, is essentially the same as HPA. Nitrogen (N2) makes up the vast magority of what we breath. The only advantage that I can see of using Purified N2 instead of compressed air is that it might keep your marker a little bit cleaner.

[DiRTyBuNNy]

I don't think you'd see as much flexing as you would imagine..the whole advantage to Ti is using less material with no loss in strength..so a smaller amount of Ti would have the same strength as a bigger piece of Aluminium...and BTW you can anno Ti...