Bad Sportsmanship

[bunkerhugger]

I'm disappointed the mods here think they are more than just moderators. I'm particularly bothered by the deleting of posts saying AGD Pride was showing poor sportsmanship. When we had discussions about the attitudes of pro players there was no censorship. I would like to know the complaints of other players at the tournament and I would like to know Pride's response. Without the debate I am left thinking Pride's personal relationship with AGD is being used to cover up something dirty.

[Chupas2]

I think you have the teams switched around. That was in the post about the Lions.

[shartley]

[cphilip]

Actualy the other team was whinning about it and started it. I only edited out name calling and flamming from BOTH sides. Flamming is not allowed I don't care who is doing it. I don't know of any deleted post but I did heavily edit some posts with comment and closed one. But all of the psots are still here that I saw.

So do not be coming here slandering me at all or you will be considered flamming ME!


(added on edit I did have to remove one whole section of a post as it was unsalvagable in any way - you will see that one)

[shartley]

Link?

[cphilip]

There are two of them. And now this one as well.

One was edited by Tom himself before I got there but I futher edited it on both parties sake. A lot of name calling having to do with female anatomy...that one is the classic about the tourney.

Then this one that I closed that started up after that. A flame post in its intent. See my comments to all of them. Both sides as a matter of fact.

http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=36696

[Chupas2]

After talking with few people this is about an incident that happen during the finals. ( We were not there) Here is what I was told happened. This is just what I heard so it could be incorrect. If it is Let me know and I'll fix it.

Team Strixeforce and AGD Lions were to play in the morning and one of the guys from the Lions was not there so the game was postponed. When they went to play the game later that day Strixeforce said that they should only be able to play with 6 because thats all they had earlier. Fair enough. The Lions end up winning the game playing with only 6 guys and Strixeforce was upset. I also heard a Strixeforce player pushed a ref after the game.


To me it just looks like Strixeforce was disappointed about losing and a little arguement broke out.

[Thordic]

For a little summary of what apparently happened.

Lions played a man down against Strikezone because of the insistance of Strikezone. (Seems to be a non-argued fact.)

This caused some bad blood between the two teams (Obvious enough)

Lions still won the game (fact)

There was some sort of smack talk going on after the game, in the parking lot or something like that (supposedly?)

Now for my opinion.

Lions were forced to play a man down, they did so grudgingly, and when they won, they rubbed it in Strikezones faces since strikezone made the Lions play a man down. Not exactly the picture of sportmanship, but considering the circumstances, its at least understandable.

It would be like if you saw someone wipe and they stayed in, and you gogged them 2 minutes later, you might rub that in.

And then, apparently, someone from strikezone came onto AO and made a comment to the Lions. Thats when flames started to fly on here.

There was some bad judgement on both sides, but it isn't a "coverup" and I think we should just let it lie, and let them both settle it on the field.

[shartley]

[cphilip]

...I'll be holding my breath for an appology...

[Thordic]

Yeah, there was no reason for Strikeforce to bring it onto the boards. Unless I'm mistaken, I didn't see the Lions saying anything about Strikeforce until that player showed up. Correct me if I'm wrong.

As for the parking lot, I believe I saw that somewhere, but like I said, thats a "supposedly". It could have taken place on live TV for all I know for sure. :)

[cphilip]

Well there apears to have been something said that I didn't see so all I could do was edit all of them from both sides out as best I could so as not to give one or the other an advantge...

[raehl]

Well...

While I'm glad to see it wasn't anything major, I would still hope teams would have the maturity to let the scoreboard do the talking. You know you beat them, they know you beat them, "rubbing it in" doesn't do anything but heighten hostilities and lead to your name being drug through the mud later. Right or not, these strike force or whoever guys are going to spend some time in the future griping to whoever they can about how big of dicks the AGD team was. I'm betting they'll probably leave their role in the situation out.

"If you have to tell people you're good, you're not."

- Chris

[SteveD]

Guys, I will gladly appologize for my player replying to some smack talk with more of the same. It shouldn't have ever been brought to the board. As far as smack talk at the field, there's ALWAYS some of that. It's part of the game that I've played for the last 18 years. There were no confrontations after the game, that I'm aware of. All we did in the parking lot was pack the bags, change our shoes and head back down for the awards. Sorry there wasn't anything more exciting than that going on. Congrats to Psycho Circus on their win.

Steve D
AGD Lions

p.s. E-Mag+Warps are the shiznit!

[raehl]

Bah.

Smack talk is not part of paintball. It's just what immature little brats do to try and make sure everyone knows how good they think they are. I think it's more common in paintball because anyone and their mother can be on a team, unlike most other sports which take years of practice to compete in at even the high school level in most cases. A buncha pricks a while back were astounded with their newfound "Athletic glory" and decided to talk themselves up and people have just been following suit ever since.

And smack talk is usually just so stinking stupid anyway, it's not like anyone every really does it with any wit or charm. Like it takes any talent to tell other people how good you think you are. Smack talk is just a sign of stupidity.

- Chris