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  • Ultimator
    ASsDddddddddddF
    • Apr 2002
    • 1389

    #1

    Question on Retro Valves

    Ok, my question is: What input pressure will I have to have going into my gun in order for it to get the most "reactiveness" (I'm talking holding my trigger about 1/3 of the way and letting it bounce continuosly [sp?])

    Thanks for all help in advance.
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  • Cha0tic
    g0t mag?
    • Feb 2001
    • 1990

    #2
    differs from valve to valve. when people want it to go into runaway, they turn the pressure up to like 1000-1200

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    • Load SM5
      Scruffy Administrator

      • Oct 2000
      • 6772

      #3
      It's hard to get it to that point and if you do you'll probably blend paint.


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      • Jonno06
        AKA Jon-no wang
        • Jan 2002
        • 4392

        #4
        hm.....sweet spotting the trigger at 1000-1200,wont that blow either the valve,or the seals????

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        • RT_Luver
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          • Jan 2002
          • 1827

          #5
          I dont even know if that is possible, might be but prob be pretty hard. I had my tank at 750 and i hardly had to move my finger and it would shoot really fast
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          • shartley
            paintball player
            • Mar 2001
            • 9169

            #6
            hm.....sweet spotting the trigger at 1000-1200,wont that blow either the valve,or the seals????
            I dont even know if that is possible, might be but prob be pretty hard. I had my tank at 750 and i hardly had to move my finger and it would shoot really fast
            Mine is set at 800 and it is VERY easy to shoot at blazing fast speeds. But that is not close to being runaway like Ultimator was asking about. It has been done though.

            It's hard to get it to that point and if you do you'll probably blend paint.

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            • Hacker240
              Registered User
              • Mar 2002
              • 67

              #7
              I suggest 750. It is reactive, but not really reactive and turns into a blender. Once you get used to a settting, any will be very fast especially 750. But it is preference.
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              • Jonno06
                AKA Jon-no wang
                • Jan 2002
                • 4392

                #8
                how can you not allow runaway mode,its not even a mode...its just shooting really fast.....nothing wrong with it.....

                i have mine on preset,and mine isnt as reactive as ide like,but its all good,i will see how many BPS i get on wednesday,or next weekend,and will report in this thread....

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                • Butterfingers
                  PhD in Automagology
                  • Jan 2001
                  • 2263

                  #9
                  The retrovalve like all current AGD valves are designed to handle 3000 psi. There isnt even a remote chance of blowing seals at 1200 psi. However the reactiveness of the trigger may cause some sear bolt wear issues.
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                  • shartley
                    paintball player
                    • Mar 2001
                    • 9169

                    #10
                    Jonno06
                    how can you not allow runaway mode,its not even a mode...its just shooting really fast.....nothing wrong with it.....

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                    • Jonno06
                      AKA Jon-no wang
                      • Jan 2002
                      • 4392

                      #11
                      would "walking" the trigger be considered full automatic?

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                      • shartley
                        paintball player
                        • Mar 2001
                        • 9169

                        #12

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                        • Jonno06
                          AKA Jon-no wang
                          • Jan 2002
                          • 4392

                          #13
                          i will have to look into this a bit farther the next time at my field,should be friday/sunday,and i will report here with my results/discoveries....

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                          • mercury
                            I miss my RT :(
                            • Feb 2002
                            • 113

                            #14
                            I would have to disagree in saying that this would be some sort of full auto mode. After all, you are getting one shot per pull of the trigger, no matter how it happens. Yes, it is bouncing off of your finger, but the trigger is returning and then re-engaging each shot so you could not consider this full auto. All you are doing is firing really fast.

                            The only thing that could constitute any full auto or burst mode would be if you pulled the trigger ONCE, and MULTIPLE shots came out for that trigger pull.

                            If anything were to be in dispute at a field, it would have to be the reactive trigger in that it allows you to bounce the trigger, but to say that it is illegal because it is full auto would be incorrect.
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                            • paintbattler
                              Mags > Cockers
                              • Nov 2001
                              • 2754

                              #15
                              set it to around 700-750psi. it will be reactive and not too stiff
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