Have we abandoned our roots?

[mykroft]

Well, woodsball has changed alot. The introduction of markers like the Mag and the Tippmann flatline have been the big change there, adding a decent amount of firepower to the game. For playing woodsball, there is no real reason to go to the ultra-high end markers like the Angel or E-Mag, because the advantage they give you really takes the fun out of the game. The rare times I play woodsball, I use my old mag, as it's all I need. Woodsball tends to emphasize moving quickly but silently and shooting accurately.

Speedball is another game entirely. The emphasis on teamwork, communication and sound tactics is much higer. I personally find speedball to be the more watchable of the two, the games move faster, and are much easier to follow. The adrenaline rush is faster, and it really emphasizes developing certain skills beyond basic accuracy. Snap Shooting, sprinting, low-crawling and the ability to dump paint when needed are all much more important to speedball than woodsball. The lack of a Mercy rule in speedball also makes for a much more close-quarters game.

Playing towns and forts are an interesting cross between the two. not really being woodsball, but making the skills of both woods players and speedball players useful. I suspect the town is where people got the idea for speedball, and they tend to be faster games with more paint dumping. Woods players can work as skirmishers and speedball players can go hey-diddle-diddle-straight-up-the-middle.

I know that as an addicted Speedball player, when I end up playing at Wasaga Beach, I usually play some of their fort/town fields (Desert, Town & Bus fields), before heading down to the Ultimate Air Court for some speedball.

[Will Wood]

PGP-Where ya playing in Maine?

[Bluntman]

Shoot man, my roots are in speedball. That's what a lot of us youngsters have starting playin, cause when youre 16 hiking through the woods just doesn't seem that cool.

[obsolete898]

I like playing both, as long as I'm out there playing I'm happy.

[rjvemt1]

What is your opinion? We have gone from games that were played in the woods with guns firing no more than 1 round/3 seconds and oil based paint

correct me if im wrong, paint magnet, but i think yall are missing the point. he is not talking about the type of game you like best,but that the spirit of the game has changed!and i agree ,the spirit of the game has changed.i think todays new players (less then 7 or 8 years) could learn alot from playin stock class league,if they are lucky enough to fild one.instead of buying the next couple of upgrades for that mag, spend 250$ on a stock class phantom and spend a year rockin and cockin. the skills you develop will amplify your game 10 fold.

[personman]

I only shoot about 1000 a day, in about 5 or 6 games, more or less depending on the time and how trigger happy I am.
I dont shoot that fast. I would say maby 6 bps more or less on my single trigger frame. Sometimes I have the craving to go faster, just to show off for the electros.. no comments from them. LoL Anyway, I dont want an electric gun. I would rather hit a guy slowly and accuratally, than spray and pray.. Although, I have to admit, hearing 13 bps hitting your bunker and skimming your head is scary.

[CleenSweep]

We've built a speedball field right next to our wooded field to give everyone something to do while they wait for the next incredibly long woods game to end.

The only thing you need to do is shorten woods games and you would shoot less paint.

But I like both, and I simply think the game has changed just like every game changes. Basketball was invented by Dr. Naismith over 100 years ago. They played it with a soccer ball and two wicker baskets that had the bottoms cut out. Look at it now. Every sport will evolve but I don't think it will ever be for the better (look at the players in sports then and now).

It's just life.

[paintbattler]

naw..the world is always open to bigger and better things

[davej946]

To each his own. Play what you like, woods, indoor, speedball, whatever. I like pie, and I think the pies have it!

Later ~ Jonesie

[Patron God of Pirates]

Originally posted by Will Wood
PGP-Where ya playing in Maine?

A couple of locations around the Dexter area. We play on my rents property in Corrina. It was just thinned out so it absolutely rules for woods ball. My cousins are building there courses in Parkman. They are starting on the woods course when they finish the Urban one they have been working on. Nothing like kids in Maine with nothing to do to get a job done.

We also intend to play legate at a place in Dover called "The Flying Dutchman". It's very cool. They shop/office is an old ultralight hanger. They have allot of property and a bunch of different arenas. Kind of funny though, they only sell Tippmanns and Spyders. Everyone that plays with my cousins was shell shocked when I pulled out my Warp fed RTP with the huge 88/4500 tank on it.

But I'm rambling. If you are anywhere near to that far north maybe you can come out and play a day or two.

[ShooterJM]

Well I started out playing outlaw just in the foothills of colorado. In fact, I can say I've only played on a speedball field one day (about 6 games). There are good and bad points to each, but both get different players to the game. I will say that I've hurt myself (ankle sprains, etc) far more running through the woods then across a speedball court. Either way I've found that by just playing hopper ball regardless adds a whole new angle to the game!

[land hurricane]

Speedball or woodsball, does it make the game we are playing not paintball? how have we abandond our roots?

[Vegeta]

i liek pie

[j.t.]

I think if more people realized the potential of a Phantom or stock class marker then we would see alot more of them out there.

I know there are alot of guys from Maine on here and if anyone knows where Crossfire paintball is, we have had days were about, 6 of the 20 people at the field were all playing with Phantoms.

It only took one guy who is pretty incredible at stock class play to influence quite a few players in the area.

(If you could still get the old pump kits for automags id probly be playing stock too)