Z-grip....why the lies?

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  • WARPED1
    I'm a pirate, ARRRRRRRRRR!
    • Nov 2001
    • 7458

    #16
    I remember reading something Tom wtoye on zgrips,he said he won't do it until everything else on his "too do" list(which was real long),and then only if enough peeps requested them AND prepaid.So,don't hold your breath.
    [Something Cool is Here]

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    • Wc Keep

      #17
      i dont like getting used items especially when you want to get back exactly what you paid for it. most of you guys want 110 for those z's. for that ill just wait for a brand new one.

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      • X-Plosive
        AO's sexiest member, and biggest post whore :)
        • Mar 2001
        • 1807

        #18
        In MY oppinion I don't see how the ACE is useful in the slightest. I don't think the ACE is worth noting.


        Taking mags apart is fun, its even more fun when you don't know what you're doing

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        • Heat
          hello lamewads
          • Oct 2000
          • 4463

          #19
          Re: Z-grip....why the lies?

          Originally posted by drboo
          Well, I'm slightly confused. Day in and day out I see posts about the desire for Tom to come out with another batch of Z-grips. Yet, all those who are itching for a Z-grip don't seem to look around in the For Sale forums. I've had a Z-grip for sale for months now, and yet no takers. I'm just curious, are you all waiting for the new grip b/c it's intellifed or is it something else? It just seems weird to me to have the praise, but not the desire to own one now.
          what are you asking for it? I'm not going to buy a used one for the same price a NEW one will eventually cost...
          and there's no telling what someone might have done to the frame before I get it... ie strip it , sand it, blah blah blah. Unless I REALLY want something with NO chance of getting it elsewhere I don't go for it.


          Anyhow, my question to you.... if you are pissed off that you're product isn't selling then I would sugjest you quit calling others liars and staring calling yourself greedy?

          it's all about price and demand remember? Demand is low cause we all want a new unscratched z ( that might be cosmetically redesigned ) and are willing to wait for Tom to catch up... as far as I remember it was a pretty sure thing that he was going t omake a batch of them... essentially he was saying ...." this will get them off my back... either I will make profit, or I can tell em why I don't make em"

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          • rikkter
            • Jun 2002
            • 1804

            #20
            intelli z? oh wait, i forgot AGD's tells you what to buy to make your own intelli. OOPS.!
            like what, 20 bucks worth of things? IF that..
            viking #619

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            • MrAirgunRT

              #21
              rekkter, it is more like 8 bucks. And there is housing inside the i-frame, not in the z-grips, unless he make izgrips:) that would have housing for the roller lever switch. I really don't care if Tom makes these or not, because I am getting a 'quote rjvemt1, a standard E-Mag' . Some other people may like the Z--Grip, I personally do Not.

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              • rikkter
                • Jun 2002
                • 1804

                #22
                well i didn't say it was 8 bucks. i said it was under 20.
                and yes i figured somoene woul dpost about the insides of the zgrip not having any hosing, just mill out little areas and slab something sturdy in there and in those slabs and there ya go
                viking #619

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                • WARPED1
                  I'm a pirate, ARRRRRRRRRR!
                  • Nov 2001
                  • 7458

                  #23
                  Personaly,I hate z grips.And that's all I have to say about that..................
                  [Something Cool is Here]

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                  • drboo
                    Registered User
                    • Oct 2001
                    • 110

                    #24
                    Off of Tom's Post "Z-Grip Offical AGD Announcement"

                    Paintball Talk is the main forum for Automags.org. Here is where we talk about the sport of paintball in general and make announcements relating to the forum and website.


                    Time Frame:

                    Before we can even think about redesigning the Z-Grip I have to,
                    Finish the 4500
                    Rework the mold on the nubbins
                    Get the Superbolts into smooth production
                    Design the ACE system
                    Rework the Extreme bodies for the ACE
                    Redesign the Warp Feed Module for the Extreme
                    Gun Dyno the power tube tips with the Superbolt
                    Get the Extreme into production
                    Verify the mold fixes in the Warp diverter plate and adaptors
                    Get the AGD store photos and descriptions done for ALL our parts and products

                    So until you see all the things on this list done don't ask about Z-Grip production. I WILL produce them again unless you don't pre order, so be assured, AGD has spoken.

                    AGD



                    All of this was stated after a few warning about the new Z's not being cheap and having to be bought up ASAP! (go read the post)

                    First I'd like to Answer Heat's question. I am not being greedy, I merely posed a question about why so many people seem to want Z-grips but don't seem to be interested in buying a used one. Especially with the chance that the "new" one may never even exist. I hate to speculate what is going to be put out by AGD next, but It sure seems to me that there are bigger and better things on the horizon at the moment that are taking up his time. I don't need to sell my Z-grip, but I figured that somebody out there who really loves them would want one so it wouldn't go to waste.

                    Price and demand....my price is due to the (seemingly) high demand and low availabilty. So, yes, I understand that concept as well.

                    So I guess the wait will be long, and If it gets to the end....Tom will begin to "think about redesigning the Z-Grip"

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                    • X-Plosive
                      AO's sexiest member, and biggest post whore :)
                      • Mar 2001
                      • 1807

                      #25
                      actually it's just as easy to intelli a z-grip as it is to intelli an intelliframe. The z-grip's sear slot is the perfect depth for the microswitch, all you have to do is add a little bit of padding on the sides or you can just glue the microswitch in place with no padding. Then you bend the lever and it's done. Then drill one simple hole which is the part most people complain about. Very easy, under 5 minutes. You have to play around with the intelframe a little to get the right placement, but with the z-grip you just bend the lever:)


                      Taking mags apart is fun, its even more fun when you don't know what you're doing

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                      • rikkter
                        • Jun 2002
                        • 1804

                        #26
                        a clever lad. *clappp*
                        viking #619

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                        • PaInTbALL zAcH
                          i am a ninja turtle!!!!!!
                          • Sep 2001
                          • 678

                          #27
                          You can intellifeed any mag frame- the intelliframe is just the easiest way. Hell if i like z grips ( and had a mechanical mag) Id get it. I buy most my stuff used

                          COWABUNGAAAA!!!!!

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                          • z-grip
                            i am the freebird
                            • Apr 2002
                            • 90

                            #28
                            Originally posted by X-Plosive
                            actually it's just as easy to intelli a z-grip as it is to intelli an intelliframe. The z-grip's sear slot is the perfect depth for the microswitch, all you have to do is add a little bit of padding on the sides or you can just glue the microswitch in place with no padding. Then you bend the lever and it's done. Then drill one simple hole which is the part most people complain about. Very easy, under 5 minutes. You have to play around with the intelframe a little to get the right placement, but with the z-grip you just bend the lever:)
                            just curious to know how you did you z, looking for other ways to go about it
                            micromag
                            z-grip
                            ans phase 2 valve
                            venturi bolt
                            shaved on off valve
                            kapp drop foward dz II
                            10" and 16" boomstick
                            114 4500 Air America Apocolypse 2K
                            oldschool 18volt rev
                            custom intellifeed connection (this was tough)

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                            • MPCfox
                              Registered User
                              • Jun 2002
                              • 4

                              #29
                              You can intel any gun with some effort, my cocker is set up for it, and cost me about 4 bucks to do.

                              btw guys, gonna be awhile for an e-zgrip

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