Incorporating Lvl10 Technology to Others Markers?

[HyperSnyper]

IMPOSSIBLE.

I remember Tom saying that it would be a matter of time until other companies incorporate (*cough*copy*copy*cough*cough*) Lvl10 technology with their own markers. The more and more I think about it (until my head hurts), I dont think its possible for sheridan based poppet type valves to do it.

Lvl10's variable bolt speed is completely controlled by the length of the bolt pin. Tolerances of the pin allow a LP bolt speed prior to ball contact then goes full steam after ball stack clearance to HP to allow for proper airflow and accomodate higher rates of fire.

Others guns just use set pneumatic rams that operate at only one set pressure. They cannot increase pressure progressively as the bolt travels farther down the breech/barrel.

Im in no way a WDP or WGP spy. Rice or Orr did not send me down here to get answers. Im simply a Hawaii college student trying to get rid of an itch in my brain. My only guess is that pneumatic ram technology will advance to give the same "variable-speed" effect as Lvl10.

Or maybe I overlooked the other companies advances, and some do have technology like this.

hmmm...

Your $0.02 guys (and gals)?

-Hyper

[Schnitzel]

i dont think anybody would accuse you of spying...this is all on the 'net, so practically anybody can see it for themselves.

[WhoDaresPlay]

My Angels work just flawlessly as is...

[rolo2169]

Originally posted by WhoDaresPlay
My Angels work just flawlessly as is...

until the battery dies

[RaV3n_Pa1ntba||]

That would be if you were stupid enough not to charge it.

No level 10 mods needed for my angel.



Hey but isnt mags chopping just a myth

[AzrealDarkmoonZ]

Actually Have Blue has already shown how this could be used in any marker with a Ram which is 90% of top end markers anyways. Also he researched and theorized this...months ago. He posted his drawins somewhere here =).

Az

[BlackVCG]

That's great that your Angels work just fine. It's not what was being discussed. If someone says Angels don't have a problem breaking/chopping paint, think again. It happens and as much as they want to deny it, it's still a problem.

I can't see it being done on any blowback style marker, because bolt speed is part of the hammer spring tension. As for other electro guns, it would be possible, but the way it is implemented would be completely different from the Mag design. I should only think the concept will be the same.

[AGD]

It is possible on ram style markers. HaveBlue did post a drawing in Deep Blue.

AGD

[FactsOfLife]

Originally posted by rolo2169


until the battery dies

he he heeeeeeee

[Top Secret]

Would be fairly easy. Instead of the same pressure going both ways into an AC ram(or any other 4-way controlled gun), the forward motion of the ram would have less pressure than the backwards motion. My idea would probably require some duel LPR setup and a 5-way(the duel LPRs in, then the 2 out + exhast vent), but I'm sure the engineering types could figure something out that is simpler.

[nutz]

Pinching paint is in almost every gun now... guns that supposedly can pinch are listed below

Autococker
Impulse
Matrix
Shocker
Excal
Timmys (pretty sure)
Bushies (i think vapor mod does it)

please correct me if i am wrong

[RT_Luver]

well, the design couldn't be TOTALLY copied and used in other guns. but the idea of it can be.

[nutz]

true because mags are the only blow forward gun i think

[paintbattler]

yea they prob will copy him and use it..PATENT it Tom

[Butterfingers]

Originally posted by nutz
Pinching paint is in almost every gun now... guns that supposedly can pinch are listed below

Autococker
Impulse
Matrix
Shocker
Excal
Timmys (pretty sure)
Bushies (i think vapor mod does it)

please correct me if i am wrong

Autococker- NOPE ONLY the freeflow and a few custom cockers. The others can and will chop paint.

Impulse- NOPE the impulse can and will chop paint

Matrix- Only with the trinity mod.

Shocker- Sometimes

Excal- Sometimes

Timmys- Only because they have an ACE. If it were disabled it would chop paint.

Bushies (i think vapor mod does it)