Should I?

[Kevmaster]

well, if you want my opinion, a Bushmaster IS a spyder. the only difference is that the pulling if the trigger activates a 4-way electronic valve and moves the hammer forward and back. (on a spyder the trigger activates a sear). is it oversimplistic to call a bushy/timmy/impy/tribal (and of course my FAVORITE-- the ANGEL) a spyder? prolly. but still, they are open bolt markers with a hammer hitting the valve and controling the bolt's movement. therefore, they will preform not really that much better than a spyder.
(yes, i know, this will raise a LOT of hell)

oh, (something that will raise MORE hell), Infinaty, the Rainmaker is one damn fine marker. i own two and they shoot like a dream. i love them

[beam]

Kevmaster, I agree.

The rainy isn't that bad of a marker....and Infinity...I sure hope you're not dissing BE.

Remember, you came to these boards with your "tricked out" raptor, and you defended BE to the death.

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[InfinatyBPS]

NONONO!!! I am definatly not dissing BE go look at my first posts here, most were about how cool my raptor was(and still is). But if I could fix that stupid raptor(it wont recock) I would use that as a backup because it always performed so well... I definatly would not mind having a rainmaker it is just hard to find upgrade parts and replacment parts for them, unless you order through drop zone or direct from BE and both of those ways are kinda expensive... But the BKO takes anything a bushy will take... and pretty much all guns are spyder clones, if you look at it that way... its hard to find any gun that doesent have something that opens a valve with a hammer...
Also another thing is the problem with blow backs with e frames is you have to worrie about the sear and striker wearing(I had to replace those parts on my raptor 3 times already after 5000 rounds) and bushys and other true electros do not have a sear/striker which are dependent on eachother. Just a solenoid, hammer and ram. Why are so many people against the BKO? I figured you would think it was a good deal but it seems everyone is saying get a real bushy, or you get what u pay for, or somthing similar... why do you think it will be so bad?

[FutureMagOwner]

well i woulkd get a matrix myself

[Goldie D Pimp]

Wait a month or two and pick up a used BKO for $150!


And while I'm posting.... So all markers that use a sheridan based valves are no better than spyders??? So a cocker isn't any better than a spyder?

[InfinatyBPS]

Originally posted by FutureMagOwner
well i woulkd get a matrix myself

why are you suggesting to buy a $600-$900 gun when I was saying i have to wait 3 months for a $300 one

[paintbattler]

wont you keep the cocker and just buy a BKO? that would be awesome

[mykroft]

Actually, the BKO is closer in design to a Cocker, just open-bolt. It's a ram/4-way actualted marker. The big deal with them is they are not blowbacks, and don't have alot of the problems blowbacks do.

The BKO is a Bushy with a slower chip, that you can't put a rock mod on. Go for it, you can always upgrade the chip if it's too slow for you. The differences between it and the latest bushmasters pretty much are like the differences between a stock Angel and a tatoo Angel, ie: lot's of money for cosmetics. The BKO actually has a couple of improvements over the original BM2K design (Which I expect to see migrated to the BKO platform soon). the LPR-solenoid connection is better, it's now user serviceable and the HPR reg is much better, now with standard ASA. The Tary is smaller, due to a shocker stule setup for board and battery (Battery is in grip now, board in tray), and the overall gun is shorter lengthwise.

I'm seriously thinking on getting one of these in the fall as a replacement for the Defiant I am selling.

[InfinatyBPS]

Originally posted by paintbattler
wont you keep the cocker and just buy a BKO? that would be awesome

OMG!!! that was the idea in the first place lol... i guess nobody understood that is what I want to do... the BKO would be as a backup(or if i like it a main)gun...

[liigod]

get a black dragun, or learn to fix yer cocker

[InfinatyBPS]

my cocker IS fixed, I know how to fix it and everything, but I know that it will break down sooner or later and my day will be messed up and I want a decent backup marker... and I dont want a dragun because I will have the same problems I have with all other blowbacks, jackhammering, striker wear, valve mushrooming, and sear wear...