Community Service Project.

**zvanut** · 06-22-2002, 08:10 PM

do we e-mail you or post?

**virus** · 06-22-2002, 08:12 PM

Re: Community Service Project.

Originally posted by Butterfingers

1) In the Level 10 configuration what is the purpose of the shims?

they limit how far the bolt has to move forward before the venting hole can do its thing and allow lower pressure air to escape thus only pinching a ball instead of chopping if the bolt happens to catch a not quite ready to be fired ball

2) Explain to me the concept of the carriers and thier respective marking system.

they work by causing just the right amount of firction during the first part of bolt travel and once the bolt clears, meanin that a ball is in the correct position will throttle up.... if not it offers enough drag so the venting hole can release air so as only to pinch and not chop

edit i just reread it all the markings are the sizing system from small 1 dash to large 4 dashs... the dots stand for the inbetween sizes

3) What springs would you use for the respective velocities 230fps, 250fps, 300fps. Explain to me the purpose of the interchangable spring system.

for 230 a main spring from my normal parts kit.... if it wont fire then it needs to be trimed
for 250 either a trimed LvX spring or a normal main spring
for 300 a LvX main spring... now i belive that 3 spings were coming with the LvX kit, being of 3 different tensions if need be one would need to know which spring was which.....
as to why use different springs.... through the use of different tensions and FPS you can set the valve up so that you use a spring strong enough to hold the bolt when a ball is pinched but still weak enough to allow the marker to fire correctly when the ball is loaded correctly

4) Explain the role of the dual diameter power piston assembly.

if you are talkin about the extended stem of the SB][ it acts like a cork venting air into the bolt at a lower pressure then what is behind the bolt so that the main spring can hold/push the bolt back in case of a pinch

5) You find that you are still able to chop paint with the correct spring. What do you do next?

first change to a stiffer spring in the set if that does not fix it then you need to remove a shim so that air can vent out sooner..... if after removing a shim the marker does not fire relibly(sp?) then switch back to the weaker spring

Multiple Choice:

1) You find yourself without a powertube spacer what part can be used as a substitute given appropriate modification.

a) A Pencil Eraser
b) A Reg Piston
c) A Rail Bushing
d) Hex nuts from your warp feed or VL elbow.

C C C C C C and C

2) A person at your local field is sportin an Automag RT that his friend decided to "hook up" he is complaining about how his gun is firing 2 shots per trigger pull one on the pull and one on the release he most likely.

a) has an autoresponse frame.
b) needs a new on/off pin.
c) is short stroking.
d) needs a new powertube spacer.

A A A

3) You friend just got a new automag from modified paintball last week and he is complaining about shootdown what should he check.

a) his on/off
b) his head for signs of activity
c) his dropforward
d) his bolt

A A A they cant just leave thing together

4) You just did a 12 volt mod to your warpfeed and you can't get it to stop spinning what should you do.

a) go to radio shack
b) change the sensitivity on the warp
c) play with the warp jumpers
d) go to burger king and have it your way.

B B B

5) The bases Uracil, Thyamine, Guanine, and Cytosene combine to form.

a) DNA
b) Globular Protiens
c) Amino Acids
d) Somthing that looks like the RT spring pack.

AAA

i'm glad my mom was near by.... RN's in the family are a good thing =)

edit only add a bold type to my last answer =)

**Potatoboy** · 06-22-2002, 08:13 PM

1. The shims in level 10 replace the powertube spacers of level 7. Their purpose is to precisely control the point during the travel of the bolt when the power piston clears the tube and releases the blast of air that propels the ball.

2. The carriers are present to account for the differences in oring tolerances. There are 8 carriers, 4 they are listed the folling way from smallest to largest.

one line.
one line and dot.
two line.
two line and dot.
three line.
three line and dot.
four line.
four line and dot.

With the carriers one changes the amount of force that the oring "grabs" or seals onto the power piston with. Less friction means faster bolt speed means theoretically more ball breaks or chops. More friction may not work with your marker.

3. For 230 you would use the stock spring. For 250 the longest level 10 spring, and 300 the shortest level 10 spring. With the interchangable springs you control the amount of force needed to propel the bolt, chambering the ball and firing. With a longer spring there is more pressure holding the bolt in place, and it takes a higher pressure release of air to combat this. The higher pressure air results in higher velocity.

4. The dual Diameter power piston assembly, in addition to the small relief hole in the piston, allows for a very slow bolt stroke until the bolt clears the ball in waiting, then a faster bolt stroke to chamber and fire the round. The slow beginning of the stroke ensures that the ball in waiting is not damaged, and if there is a misfeed the slow moving bolt will ideally bounce off the jammed or misfed round.

5. If you are able to chop paint using the correct spring, you may want to try a smaller oring carrier. This will add friction to the bolt making it move slower, thus increasing the likelyhood that the bolt will bounce off a half fed round, and decrease the chance that the ball in waiting will be damaged. You can also remove coils from the large mainsprin to make your own mainspring for your needs.

MC:
1. C
2. B (A is too rare to be likely)
3. A
4. B
5. A, but don't you mean RNA?

**Butterfingers** · 06-22-2002, 08:13 PM

Just post, the answers with explainations will be posted as soon as sombody maxes the test.

**virus** · 06-22-2002, 08:14 PM

Originally posted by zvanut
do we e-mail you or post?

well he didn't say... and i was borded so i just posted it =)

BTW Butters how did i do =)

**marley618** · 06-22-2002, 08:19 PM

1- The shims control where in the forward stroke the air chamber starts venting.

2- The different size carriers are to create a good seal with the least amount of friction.

3- shoort length spring 300fps
long 250fps
normal (stock) 230 fps
The different springs adjust the bolt return force to match the fps, which reduces breaks.

4- The power piston assembly acts like a cork to seal the air chamber, lvl 10 reduces its size which allows the spring to hold it back easier (also deals with #3)

5- Go to the next smaller carrier, and keep your gun oiled.

1 c
2 a
3 a
4 c
5 a

Edit: I hope this teaches people to use the search button

**zvanut** · 06-22-2002, 08:36 PM

heres my shot

Long answer

1.
in the forward stroke of the bolt the shims control where the air chamber vents

2.
carriers create a seal without a lot of friction

they have small grooves to tell them apart. they are also different sizes.

3.
230 is the main spring from a parts kit
250 is a normal main spring or a trimmed level 10 spring
300 is the level 10 main spring
the springs are used to change the velocity, because the tension in the spring can change tension on the bolt.

4.
the dual diameter power piston assembly put the tip of the bolt just underneath the next ball in the feed tube. then when the gun is fired it pushes the bolt foward shottin the ball

5.
you start with the longest mainspring, assemble and gas up the marker.if it does not fire turn up the velocuty. if it starts leaking out the back switch to the next smallest main spring.

Multiple choice

1. C
2. A
3. A
4. B
5.A

**marley618** · 06-22-2002, 08:39 PM

On #4, for some warps you have to adjust the warp jumpers and the sensitivity, I'm not sure which answer you are looking for.

Yes, Kaiser Bob told me this. I just thought I would post it since i don't know which is right.

**Kaiser Bob** · 06-22-2002, 09:05 PM

Originally posted by marley618
On #4, for some warps you have to adjust the warp jumpers and the sensitivity, I'm not sure which answer you are looking for.

Hey! no cheating, you got that from me in the chat room! :P

Im going to allow some other lucky soul to win one since i have one on the way already

**Butterfingers** · 06-22-2002, 11:13 PM

Oh wow. Remember the MC questions are delibrately deceptive
Im gonna let this run for a few days. If nobody wins the first person with the highest score get it.

**Potatoboy** · 06-22-2002, 11:24 PM

On second thought I change my answer to MC1 to D.

Although A can be used to hold on Earrings.

**Potatoboy** · 06-22-2002, 11:28 PM

*Not editing to avoid any problems*

Also.

MC5 is nice, I change my answer to D there as well.

**marley618** · 06-23-2002, 12:31 AM

I change MC4 to B.

**sniper1rfa** · 06-23-2002, 09:04 AM

I, Andrew Browning, do solemly swear to share my technical knowledge and tinkering expertise with all of AO to ensure simple troubleshooting of the automag (tm) line of paintball markers.

long answer:

1.) To adjust where the bolt kicks into high gear. the more shims, the later it does.

2.) They are different sizes, so they can compress an oring, so that the o-rings can be made to fit perfectly. this is necessary because o-rings do not have great tolerances, whereas mags do, making it necessary to HAVE a high tolerance oring (we dont have one, remember?). there are 8 carriers, each deviating from the last by .0015". there are rings cut around the outside, and possibly a divot marking a "tweener" (carrier between two of the original sizes). the more rings, the bigger the carrier, and the bigger the o-ring.

3.) 230 - stock spring.
250 - short L10 spring.
300 - probably the medium L10 spring.
springs must be adjusted to keep the marker firing. because the mag is a dump chamber gun, velocity is changed by pressure. when you have a lower pressure in the power tube (low pressure/low velocity) you need a lighter spring, or else the bolt will not have enough pressure behind it to compress the spring. remember, the first stage is VERY light, and therefore very sensitive to pressure differences.

4.) the assembly is made to give a dynamic bolt speed. the first stage, the small piston, will stop on a ball, because it is low speed/low force. this is because a small piston will have less force at a set pressure than a larger piston. the second stage uses a high speed/high speed piston. this ensures the mags ability to shoot really, really, really fast is not overly affected.

5.) put in a heavier spring.

multiple choice:
1.) C, but you would need to get rid of the lip and file it down to the correct size, within .0005"
2.) A his friend "hooked him up" with an autoresponse frame (nice choice).
3.) B (what a wierd kid...)
4.) A (interface it, youll have to much trouble trying to fix it, or put a filter in, to get rid of the noise generated by such high voltages)
5.) A

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