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  • Jammin James
    Crackhead
    • Jun 2002
    • 70
    #1

    How fast are we talkin?

    I was wondering how much faster a mag with a z-grip would be if I got a retro valve for it. Also, can they take my power-tube spacer kit?

    Change your signature please. It's offensive - cphilip
    Last edited by cphilip; 06-24-2002, 02:18 PM.
    BUFU
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    • Ultimator
      ASsDddddddddddF
      • Apr 2002
      • 1389
      #2
      I shot my friend's (smokee27) Z-grip Retro today. The retro really made a difference. The input was up at around 900 or 1000 and it's great when your fingers get pushed back, you can shoot a lot faster. My only problem is that I had no idea how to hold or operate a z-grip, and I forgort to turn on the revvy . So I wound up short stroking and chopping like 5 balls that game (whoopsie).
      The only difference between martyrdom and suicide is press coverage.

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        • BlackVCG
          Grubby Owner

          • Oct 2000
          • 4956
          #3
          PT spacers work with all AGD valves, except those equipped with the new LVL 10 mods.
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            • Raptor3359
              Registered User
              • May 2002
              • 160
              #4
              Originally posted by Ultimator
              So I wound up short stroking and chopping like 5 balls that game (whoopsie).
              correct me if i'm wrong but i thought retro valve stops short stroking because it pushs your finger back?
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                • RT_Luver
                  Co-Official AO Penguin
                  • Jan 2002
                  • 1827
                  #5
                  a retro with z can RIP. a lot faster then retro with intelliframe
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                    • RT_Luver
                      Co-Official AO Penguin
                      • Jan 2002
                      • 1827
                      #6
                      Originally posted by Raptor3359

                      correct me if i'm wrong but i thought retro valve stops short stroking because it pushs your finger back?
                      ahte to burst oyur bubble, but you can more EASILY short stroke with retro because you wanna shoot so much faster. now the E-mag DOES stop short stroking when in an Electro mode9either electro or Hybrid) beacuse its not actually the trigger pull, its the solenoid
                      Black Warp Left E-mag #EM00163
                      emagnum board
                      14in freak
                      12v smoke warp w/ interlink
                      drilled 12v revy w/ JMJ impeller and WAS turbo rev board
                      shocktech drop
                      AGD flatline dovetail adaptor
                      68 3000 flatline

                      ***soon to be***
                      emagnum body rail
                      black powder coat
                      custom grips from Frymarker

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                        • paintbattler
                          Mags > Cockers
                          • Nov 2001
                          • 2754
                          #7
                          yes it does shoot alot faster..probably 10 bps..thats a lot
                          Someone took away my cool sig. *cough*mod*cough*

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                            • Wc Keep
                              #8
                              dude i can pull 10bps on my classic valve with benchmark frame.

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                                • paintbattler
                                  Mags > Cockers
                                  • Nov 2001
                                  • 2754
                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by Wc Keep
                                  dude i can pull 10bps on my classic valve with benchmark frame.
                                  im talkin bout from stock frame/valve to retro/z-grip
                                  Someone took away my cool sig. *cough*mod*cough*

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                                    • AssassN
                                      Official Photoshop Phreak
                                      • Jan 2002
                                      • 1991
                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by RT_Luver


                                      ahte to burst oyur bubble, but you can more EASILY short stroke with retro because you wanna shoot so much faster. now the E-mag DOES stop short stroking when in an Electro mode9either electro or Hybrid) beacuse its not actually the trigger pull, its the solenoid
                                      At d-day i sat around iwht my benchy on my RT and TRIED to short stroke. I tried my brains out and couldn't do it. I tried my brains out wiht my SE. What are you guys doing to short stroke. I fired some and didn't release the trigger all the way and fired again. I did the same thin but fast.

                                      I have tried and tried and can't get my mag or spyder to short stroke. Maybe i am messed up.
                                      Originally posted by PyRo

                                      Its called jokeing. You have no right to be questioning me with your measially 460 posts!!!!

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                                        • Wc Keep
                                          #11
                                          hate to burst your bubble but spyders cant short stroke.

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                                            • AssassN
                                              Official Photoshop Phreak
                                              • Jan 2002
                                              • 1991
                                              #12
                                              my frineds shutter short stroke but it doesn't chop the air just rushes out for a few seconds. Soo ya it is just defferent. Hate to bust your bubble.
                                              Originally posted by PyRo

                                              Its called jokeing. You have no right to be questioning me with your measially 460 posts!!!!

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                                                • J
                                                  Light me up
                                                  • Jul 2001
                                                  • 303
                                                  #13
                                                  I think it's more of a "slip" when a Spyder does it.
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                                                    • Jammin James
                                                      Crackhead
                                                      • Jun 2002
                                                      • 70
                                                      #14
                                                      you think I should GO Retro or just get an electronic frame or a new electronic gun?

                                                      edited out signature again... cphilip
                                                      Last edited by cphilip; 06-24-2002, 02:20 PM.
                                                      BUFU

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                                                        • hitech
                                                          Not a shedder of vortices
                                                          • Nov 2001
                                                          • 4775
                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by AssassN
                                                          ...and TRIED to short stroke. I tried my brains out and couldn't do it. Maybe i am messed up.
                                                          Nothing wrong with you, it's the rest of us with the problem!

                                                          I wish I was like that. My problem is that if it's short strokable, I can, and will, do it.


                                                          Hey Hitech your starting to sound like me! - AGD
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