Just wondering, but how fast are you guys shootin?

[dansim]

15 on an led? hmm i thought they were capped alot lower
and 15 on a retro mag...id like to see a sound file and it to be broken down this post is simply one huge lie with a few truths thrown in for goo measure, now as for me
the highest ive acheived is 16 once and never again i can consisntently hit 11-14 with out to much trouble usually someone shooting at me will do the trick

[mykroft]

7-10 on most guns, during a game. 12 over a chrony when purposely trying to shoot fast, with Blade cocker or Angel.

[ShooterJM]

Originally posted by Miscue
6bps with my tongue when girls are watching.

Ok that's funny.

Normal game play is only about 5 bps (I play hopperball with a non revvy) in bursts.

If I'm really trying to get on the trigger (no fanning) I generally cap at 9-11 before I start short stroking. All this is with a dye frame and clasic automag valve.

Edit: In game speed is just my guess. The 9-11 is what I measure when trying for speed over a chronny.

[Wc Keep]

ok i have the exact number of 10.2 bps as my fastest with a classic mag and a benchmark frame. didnt short stroke it once either. i thought that tom kaye once said that the only person ever to record over 13 bps was lasoya? someone please correct me if im wrong.

[ShooterJM]

Originally posted by Wc Keep
i thought that tom kaye once said that the only person ever to record over 13 bps was lasoya? someone please correct me if im wrong.

I've heard that before, but didn't somebody with an emag on an AGD team hit that or better in a tourny? Maybe I'm remembering wrong.

[subbeh]

Hah... I really dislike these type of threads because they are not accurate. Do you people realize, for instance, how fast 13 BPS is? I'm sure some of it is true, some of this has to be just BS... otherwise, props to you people, you are AMAZING!

[Rooster]

There is a huge difference between sustained rate of fire and pulling your quickest two balls and calculating the time in between, then multiplying to find bps, which makes most of these posts farcical. bps is balls per second, as in balls you shoot in one second. Not what your balls per second would be if you could shoot that fast for a whole second. 3 balls at so called "13 bps" and then stopping for a second, is 3 bps, not 13, no matter what the little window on your angel says.

Take what anyone says their bps is, and divide by half, and you are getting somewhere closer to the truth.

[Wc Keep]

i like your answer rooster and it provides a logical reason as to why these people are saying 15 bps on their angel but when i said i hit 10.2 i had it measured over a pac 3 chrono which measures time between shots and i shot for over 2 seconds.

[mykroft]

Wc Keep: Not Just LaSoya.

Brian Bowes of Genetik Disorder, up here in Toronto, has been recorded north of 13. With a Matrix+12V Warp, rolling the trigger, he was clocked at 20 in a ~10ball burst (Rolling, not pulling the trigger). He has been clocked in at 14-15 in bursts on a Matrix when actually pulling the trigger. This was recorded over a Chrony.

he must be seen to be believed. Brian's other hobby is Guitar, and he has spent around 10 years perfecting his skill at Speed Metal, his fingers are insanely fast.

['Mag]

Try these files:

11bps for ~1second

http://geocities.com/thundermag123/elevenbps.wav

10bps for ~3seconds

http://geocities.com/thundermag123/tenbps.wav

9bps on a Spyder

http://geocities.com/thundermag123/spyder9bps.wav

The first two are my Automag Classic w/Benchmark single trigger frame. All of these are quite old and are of extremely low sound quality. Also you should know that they are without paint (shots fired in my living room). Now I have a Hyperframe and can fan it at 13bps (locked at 13) pretty constantly. I can walk it in bursts that are very quick too, but just plain one finger action is somewhere around 8-10. My mic is broken so I can't do any recording to find out how fast I'm really going, though.

From PBNation:

okay, refilled my tank and did it again. this time i shortened the trigger pull on the werm frame to as short as it would go and took out the spring (essentially using the microswitch as the spring). the results were better.

LOW - 9.3 (substantially better than the original 6.7)

AVERAGE - 15.8 (again way better than origianl 11.7)

HIGH - 16.8 (about the same)

FREAK HIGH - 20 (about the same)

hmm, i just realized something, i thought the newer boards are capped at 13.5 bps non-vision!!! well i am way over that, i was shooting in non-vision of course because vision wouldn't let me shoot without a ball in breech.....hmm, anyone care to comment on this?

check out the new video here:

http://www.markjovic.com/files/dryfire-take2.avi

This is by FreshieMedia on a Rat Impulse with a Werm frame. He's crazy fast at walking the trigger.

To view this you need a DivX player, available here:

http://www.markjovic.com/files/DivX_4.12_Bundle.exe

[FeelTheRT]

On my Angel, generally after games the LCD reads out 7 bps. I've shot 8-10bps burst when walking my trigger though. When i had a Classic Mag, i think i shot around 4-5bps; 6-8 on RT; and finally again i think i shot around 6-8bps on my Cocker.

[Patron God of Pirates]

Please read entire post before responding:

First time I chronod BPS I was amazed. The little digital readout was telling me 18 BPS. or about a week I declared myself the gray god of trigger quickness.

Then I found out that the Chrono went by the two closest balls in a string. So I came on here and learned how people use sound files to get a much more accurate number.

As it turns out, I average about 11 when trying to fire fast. The highest ROF I've verified via sound file was 14 BPS. That was only once, and I've only gotten back to 13 a couple of times since then.

So I basically fire 9-12 BPS with the occasional freak burst and the occasional lag.

This is all with my RTP. I recorded 8 BPS with my totally stock M98, I think that might be some kind of record.

[Snakebite78]

I think there is some confusion here. First, let's just say that BPS can be measured in many ways, and that you don't have to sustain that fire for a long period of time. That is why BPS is rather confusing. Now, the measurement is just like in car's spedometers. I can go 25 MPH for 10 min. and I can say I was going 25 MPH and noone will object. I don't have to drive for an hour to say how fast I was going. The same is true with BPS, I don't have to shoot for a second to get BPS, I could shoot two shots. Now, granted, this is not a very accurate measurement. The best measurement would be sustained ROF, like emptying a hopper, because that's the longest sustained time you'll ever get unless someone else reloads your hopper. So, have a friend get a stopwatch, have a full hopper and tank, he'll say go, then you empty the hopper. Let him know when you're done, divide the number of balls (EXACT) by the time (in seconds), and that is your sustained ROF. So therefore there are many ways to measure your ROF, none of which are wrong, but some that aren't very practical.