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  • WARPED1
    I'm a pirate, ARRRRRRRRRR!
    • Nov 2001
    • 7458

    #1

    Why no lp Tom?

    This may have been asked before but,Tom,why do you not like lp on guns?Just curious.
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  • Miscue
    Super Moderator

    • Oct 2000
    • 7105

    #2
    Because LP operating pressure is hype. The Level10 Kit has a low pressure stage. So, it is 'LP' exactly where it needs to be, and not where it doesn't.

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    • WARPED1
      I'm a pirate, ARRRRRRRRRR!
      • Nov 2001
      • 7458

      #3
      I was just curious,I never liked lp much.For some reason when my buddy made his cocker lp,he could only get like 800 shots out of his 68ci 3k tank.Weird.
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      • Jonno06
        AKA Jon-no wang
        • Jan 2002
        • 4392

        #4
        jimbo jimbo jimbo.....

        the question isnt why he doesnt go lp,its why he should.....

        (yes,i had to repost because the other thread was deleted,but i changed it alil)

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        • RT_Luver
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          • Jan 2002
          • 1827

          #5
          yea...LP has been found in aloota guns to use more gas then non-LP guns...odd
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          • WARPED1
            I'm a pirate, ARRRRRRRRRR!
            • Nov 2001
            • 7458

            #6
            I don't think Tom should go lp,I just wondered why he hadn't.With that new lvl 10 there is NO reason for him to go lp now.
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            • mxracer33x
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              • Jun 2002
              • 464

              #7
              The issue of more or less shots comes down to this. It takes so much energy to get a ball moving to 280 fps. if you have a Low pressure system, it takes a larger volume of air to get it up to speed. In a high pressure system the air expands more nad requires lese volume to get the ball up to speed. So in hte end it should work out pretty close as far as air consumption. If im way off base with this. Someone slap me and tell me why.

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              • Miscue
                Super Moderator

                • Oct 2000
                • 7105

                #8
                Yeap, that is true.

                LP/HP does not imply efficiency, although efficient valve design can lead to lower pressures.

                You can have an LP gun that is very gas efficient, or one that is not. Same with HP.

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                • Wackomin
                  Registered User
                  • Jun 2001
                  • 48

                  #9
                  No one really cares about Low Pressure. They care about 3 things. Does your marker shoot accurately. (look at pbstar.com and that is proven.) Does it break balls? (level 10) Lastly is how efficient is the marker? That is something that needs to be worked on a bit. I can guarantee you that I get more shots out of my Black Magic than I get out of my retro Mag.

                  But I only play with my mag. I needed to get a cocker to see what the hype was all about.

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                  • BlackVCG
                    Grubby Owner

                    • Oct 2000
                    • 4956

                    #10
                    Mags are higher pressure guns with LVL 10.

                    Yes, you can reduce paint breakage and chopping with LP, but there's more than one way to skin a cat...
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                    • rudy
                      Registered User
                      • Oct 2001
                      • 439

                      #11
                      the mag specifically seems to be less effecient with lower pressure the hyper mag when it was being made was getting a decent increase in effeciency opperating at a higher pressure. rather what really needs to be done is figure out how to make the gun more effecient and see where the pressure ends up. I know of at least 2 places I believe slight changes could increase the mags effeciency and I think both could be done in level 10. so I hope that the beta we have will not be the final version

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                      • Miscue
                        Super Moderator

                        • Oct 2000
                        • 7105

                        #12
                        Originally posted by BlackVCG
                        Yes, you can reduce paint breakage and chopping with LP, but there's more than one way to skin a cat...


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                        • Bob Mundon
                          Registered User
                          • Mar 2002
                          • 59

                          #13
                          on one of toms tech tips he explains how LP is pretty much all hype and myth

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                          • magman007
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                            • Jun 2001
                            • 7579

                            #14
                            guys guys guys, mags are already lp, lp has been defined as any marker with an opperating pressure under 500psi. Mags were the first lp semi auto markers any ways! thats why tom dosnt go lp, its because he already is



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                            • meat
                              Registered User
                              • Jan 2002
                              • 143

                              #15
                              wackomin , one thing that you forgeting , rate of fire , probly 75%of people care about thier rate of fire more than air effeciency.
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