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Originally posted by CaPoEiRa I never have and never will
You took the words out of my mouth. Cheaters and sore loosers are people that i have no regard for. If you need to go so low as to cheat to feel better about yourself then you need to take a look at your life and think about whether you are playing the right sport or not.
Deplorable how some people feel the need to cheat (although I do quite often in computer games). Do you just feel that being taken out is unfair to begin with?
It doesn't matter if it's "tourney" play or "rec" play. In one, there is a lot of media coverage, and high visibility, and in the other, the people who don't need to see cheating shouldn't.
I will admit Bunkerking, that you are probably right, it should be the ref's responsibility to check people, but if it takes one second to look and see a paint mark, you should call yourself out.
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I was playing at Camp Pentleton in Socal, and they had about 11 feilds and they were all pretty huge, not woodsball but just rec ball like with boards and house things... in open areas, well anyways, there were only like 2 refs a game I popped up and shot a few shots where the enemies were, and then i get down again behind a bush and then i feel all these balls start flying throught the bush and a couple hit me and bounced off, then one hit my hopper and I was new to the feild so I asked, do gun/hopper hits count here? And the guy looked around and motioned to wipe my hopper off. I thought about it for a split second and said no thats ok(feeling disgusted that someone would say that) and got off the feild, and after the game he found me and said I should have just kept playing cause nobody would have known, then even my dad, who i told expecting to get a 'good job' from said I should have wiped it cause it came through the bush...
I dunno about you, but when I see wiping... I get violent psychopathic thoughts...
If you're gonna cheat, don't play. I don't run 15+ miles/week to get to that first bunker faster so somebody can cheat me. I haven't invested thousands into my equipment so somebody can cheat me. I haven't practiced hard and invested hundreds of hours of my time so somebody can cheat me.
Only been playing (rec) a couple of months, but I have never wiped. If I have any doubt I call for a paint check. Yesterday whilst playing I was tagged by a hopper shot but the place was that liverly I stayed put in the trench I was in, cleaned my hopper/marker, then once things had calmed down moved off into the safe zone. You somehow feel better about yourself playing fair.
We had a good way of dealing with two brothers who were wiping a few weeks back. We either ignored them and wouldn't shoot at them, or at the start of the game the whole team would pick them out and light 'em up. That way they could not get away with it.
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I'm pretty sure i've only done it once. I did vote never though, because once wasn't an option. The only time that was is when I was playing against some older kids who were whiping as well, I know that doesn't make it right but I still did it.
It almost always depends on the situation. On normal circumstances I will NEVER wipe.
But there is one situation where I might. Say you get get far up the field on the break and get an angle on a player. You have an open shot at his side. You take a few shots at him and one breaks right on his arm. You can easily see it so you decide to not shoot him again and wait for him to leave the field since he knows he's hit. But then he quickly wipes it off and shoots you and a ball breaks right on your hopper, while your screaming bloody hell at him for cheating. No refs nor teamates saw it so what would you do? Is it fair to wipe then?
The only time I use a wiping motion is after my barrel plug is in, my hand is raised, and I'm in a dead zone. The only exception is a goggle shot, which I clear right before proceeding to the dead zone. If I'm not sure of a mark (if it's as big as a quarter), I ask. Luckily, all the people I've played with and against have the same philosophy.
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Originally posted by SSMercury I will admit Bunkerking, that you are probably right, it should be the ref's responsibility to check people, but if it takes one second to look and see a paint mark, you should call yourself out.
Oh, but I do, in all of the cases that the hit is completely obvious call myself out. Like I said in my first post, I do not wipe, but play the gray area. When someone in a tourney feels that he hits something, they yell "check that guy ref!" "get him out of there!" or "on his hopper ref, on his hopper!" and the refs come over and check you.
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I have never WIPED, however I don't always play fairly. One time, I was playing on Nutz's and MagHappy's field, and one of the guys was nailing me left and right, NONE broke so I remained in. Most of gotten hit 10 times. If I am playing at a field, and I get hit anywhere that I can't see, I call for a paint check. And the refs will usually just glance over me and tell me to keep playing. Many-a times when I get off the field I infact find paint. I get so many bounces though because of the clothes I wear, 2-3 bounces for every break ATLEAST.
Originally posted by paintbattler
dude..we lifted his shirt up and there was tons of welts..
hey....I didn't wipe ANY that time. those were from kevin adn the first game where I got lit up. He hit me like 9 times the first game and I had like 13 welts fromt he entire day. AND most the time ya'll did hit me, they bounced cuz my dad said he was watchin...so THERE
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