What do mag owners think of cockers? just curious..

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  • Brian68mag
    Loving my free emag
    • Apr 2002
    • 318

    #1

    What do mag owners think of cockers? just curious..

    I myself think they are mechanical wonders, all those parts move perfectly together(when they work) to provide for the smoothest shot in any gun(opinion). Some people think its just rediculous, ie why do you need 300 parts to fling paint. I can fully understand that side of the arguement too.

    Actually im buying a used(barely) cocker(my friends old gun) from a cool dealer downtown as a backup/ fun gun too. Iv'e always wanted to own a cocker and learn how they work in full and learn them inside out so i can time and fix them as easy as a mag.
    Its a WGP 2001 standered body, ans genx front block/jackhammer, rat valve, shocktech supafly bolt, ans genx reg, planet eclipse blade trigger with dye stickies, shocktech drop and a bunch of other neat things and perfectly timed for about 600.

    So what do you think about the mags main rival, the cocker?
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  • The JOE
    Bad-Guy Detector
    • Jun 2002
    • 124

    #2
    Friend of mine has an Autococker, and I've shot it a few times. Even used it. But I really like the Automag better.

    I suppose my current policy on Autocockers is - I'll use the Autococker, but I'll be thinking of my Mag.
    So you've got an E-Mag, Warpfeed, LX, and a complete set of barrels. You can shoot a steady 13 bps and bunker me like it's no problem...

    But do you know where your towel is?

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    • lillfroboy
      little boys = bigger boys
      • Jun 2002
      • 395

      #3
      I My self have a mag and love it to wonders and my friend has a Cocker and everytime we play ther e is something wrong with it like its over pressureized or some stuff like that


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      • FooTemps
        HURRRR
        • Sep 2001
        • 6702

        #4
        The cocker is a high quality piece of paint slinging machinery! Heh, it's built on a pump design and it has it's limits. I like how EVERYONE (well, almost) is trying to make it better and make it their own. It gives people so many damn options and combonations of cockers to build/buy. The only thing I don't like about cockers are those cocker jocks who diss on mags and swear by their religion(mag dissing) that mags suck.

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        • Load SM5
          Scruffy Administrator

          • Oct 2000
          • 6772

          #5
          I just bought one, too. It's a lot of fun to shoot. With a swing trigger I can fling paint faster than I could with my old mags. But it will always be a project gun and a back-up for my SFL E-mag. I love my E-mag, too much. Sounds like you have a sweet gun, have fun with it.


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          • CpSuPeRkId
            Registered User
            • May 2002
            • 390

            #6
            well its a hard question to answer, i hate them but love them at the same time. ok heres the hate: they sell on hype alone, like u said they are way too complex to sling paint, everyone has them and they say cockers rule cuz they shoot further, when really they are slow guns(unless u get an eframe or sandridge cocker) but yet everyone wants them. last but not least is the fact that they cost SO much money and most of the "high performance" cockers shoot worse than the stock ones, given the fact that they are probably untimed and out of tune. but why deal with the crap when u can have a 250 dollar classic mag that shoots better(imo) than the most pimped out cocker.
            on to the part where i say what i like about cockers... ummm nothing, lol jj, but honestly the only thing i can think of is the fact that they look/feel soo cool, they are the most customizable gun in the world, and oh yea the cool moving backblock and the sound it makes. so to sum it up i like everything about them except the way they shoot.
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            • petefol
              Registered User
              • Mar 2002
              • 780

              #7
              i think they are good guns... i just dont like the looks

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              • InfinatyBPS
                Dead Black Rose
                • May 2001
                • 2404

                #8
                Muhahaha, COCKERS SUXOR!!!! Actualy I have a cocker(look at sig) and it is nice... breaks alot because I always do something stupid to it, but when it works its nice... What you have now is a good setup, and a good thing is that that ANS Reg has interchangeable parts with a mag reg...
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                • Restola
                  Certificated Cloud Buster
                  • May 2001
                  • 2230

                  #9
                  I like them. What I dont like are the few owners who will turn their nose up at the sight of a mag, and then sit out the next 3 games trying to get their gun to even shoot.

                  I fully understand that when a cocker goes down it is 99.9% of the time the owner's fault for opening it up and trying to "tweak" it (even I was once a cocker owner). I just cant stand the "mags suck, but my gun rocks when it works" mentality.

                  So cockers = good. some of their owners = not so good.

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                  • FeelTheRT
                    Registered User
                    • Jun 2001
                    • 2950

                    #10
                    Originally posted by CpSuPeRkId
                    last but not least is the fact that they cost SO much money and most of the "high performance" cockers shoot worse than the stock ones, given the fact that they are probably untimed and out of tune. but why deal with the crap when u can have a 250 dollar classic mag that shoots better(imo) than the most pimped out cocker.
                    I couldn't disagree more. High-end Cockers shoot worse then stock ones? Most good high-end Autocockers such as Free Flows, Works and Sonic; are $500 more for a reason. They have higher flowing valves and bolts, lighter moving parts, lighter trigger pulls, and super low bolt psi (can not chop). For the obvious differences, they have less kick, are able to sustain higher ROF, and shoot better. Stock autocockers shoot pritty much same as classic Mags. I am not saying the Mag nor the stock Cocker shoots bad, but i'm just saying theres a huge gap between the two.
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                    • Mag-Uh-Man
                      Registered User
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 8

                      #11
                      Psh if u were gunna get a cocker u could of at least got the vert feed....*shakes head in dissapointment*

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                      • FeelTheRT
                        Registered User
                        • Jun 2001
                        • 2950

                        #12
                        yes vert feed is a MUST. I sold my right feed Cocker for only $450 with no barrels a few months back and people that have seen my Cocker know that its worth a HECK lot more than that.
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                        • Frydrice4you
                          Registered User
                          • Jun 2002
                          • 14

                          #13
                          autococker

                          I own a 98 minicocker and a automag. The cocker is totally tricked with new body, barrel, etc...it shoots really great...don't know why people hate on cockers. its all preference.

                          My mag is still pretty much stock with a new armson and a kapp cradle. Don't get me wrong I love my mag, but the cocker is really good. I have no maintenence problems. The only people who get cocker problems are the sill guys that think they can take apart the pneumatics.

                          well either gun can be a great tournament marker if u do the right things.

                          I'm gonna get a palmer side reg, new grip frame, and a retro valve for my mag.
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                          • Army
                            Moderator of DOOOOOOOOMMM!

                            • Oct 2000
                            • 5785

                            #14
                            They are fine guns. Oddly complicated method of operation and shooting though, but considering the paintball technology then ('80's), it is a well thought out piece of engineering. I believe their method of operation is obsolete though. However, it works, and works good.

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                            • damageinc54
                              Machinist
                              • Oct 2001
                              • 1324

                              #15
                              Cockers are great guns when properly timed and maintained. That is why I have one
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