Official Great Stories About LVL10 Thread

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  • Linx
    Registered User
    • Apr 2002
    • 202

    #16
    This story may or may not be relevant, but here it goes. I have been playing in a 3 man series with a guy that has an E-mag, but then bought an IR3. The first leg of the series his team was in first place (when he used his E-mag). At that time I was getting an E-mag so I talked to him about it. He said he liked it but was going to get an IR3 because his Mag chopped too much. I told him about level 10. He was interested but had his mind made up on the IR3. Jump forward a month. He now was using his IR3 and I had my E-mag with level 10 beta. I showed him my E-mag and demonstrated the level 10. He even stuck his finger in with out hesitation. He was thoroughly impressed but said he really liked his new IR3. Fast forward again to the end of the day. His team went from first place to ninth place, (out of 11). Our team went from 2nd to 1st I asked what happened, why the turn around? He said that he just played better with the E-mag. Now he will be keeping the E-mag and getting level 10!

    I know this story is not really about level 10, but it tells a story about how the feel of a gun can matter more then the performance. If your comfortable with your marker is the true question. I know that when I have my Mini in hand I feel like an army of cocker shooters don't stand a chance. It's that confidence in my marker that I have only felt with AGD equipment. My Level 10 E-mag just makes it even better.
    Team Fuzz Bomb
    www.stalkerpaintball.com

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    • Doc Nickel
      Unrepentant Gadget freak

      • Jul 2001
      • 499

      #17
      Well, I can't say I went and impressed anyone at the field yet, and for that matter, I haven't even given the thing a good anti-chop test, but I did write up an interesting article about dragging my 'Mag out of the parts-box for the first time in at least two-years-plus.

      I'd been meaning to anyway- like all my other personal projects that get set aside indefinitely for shopwork- and getting an L10 kit was reason enough.

      "Dude, where's my 'Mag?"

      Doc.

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      • Butterfingers
        PhD in Automagology
        • Jan 2001
        • 2263

        #18
        Doc you know you can just turn that hex nut in on the reg piston and it could have saved you a little work. Providing that you didnt turn it in too much you would also have a functional reg piston with pressure relief.
        Did you hear about the new european weapons contracts? France is going to make the wooden sticks Spain making the little white flags

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        • Doc Nickel
          Unrepentant Gadget freak

          • Jul 2001
          • 499

          #19
          Except that it's quite thoroughly loctited in there.

          I suppose with a judicious application of heat and some soft blocks in a vise, I could have gotten it to turn... Although doing so risks damaging the piston body.

          Heck, it took less than five minutes, start to finish, to part off a bit of .500" brass rod, and had I adjusted the original, I would have had no idea at what pressure I'd have set the poppet- without a lot of experimentation, anyway- so the end result was basically a wash.

          Doc.

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          • Butterfingers
            PhD in Automagology
            • Jan 2001
            • 2263

            #20
            wow I wish I had a lathe I would be making stuff all day.
            Did you hear about the new european weapons contracts? France is going to make the wooden sticks Spain making the little white flags

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            • magmonkey
              Mass Destruction
              • Oct 2001
              • 775

              #21
              ok here goes
              my lvl 10 kits came in two days ago
              (one for me and one for a teamate) unfortunatly my emag was off with gecko at a tournament so we installed the kits into my micro and jareds clasic
              here are the specs on the markers

              mine
              gen 2 micro mag with retrovalve and a benchy frame running a preset screw in 48 3k pmi tank

              jareds clasic
              running my extra emag body retro valve benchy 2x frame and a 68 3k flatline

              we had both kits installed and running in 35 mins so we decided to take them to exutive indoor in the hadley mall (a very cocker biased store but a bunch of good guys)

              we have known the owner and workers for many years and we have always taken flak for owning mags

              I took jareds gun on the field with a vl 200 and stale field paint (as I was walking onto the field I got three anti mag comments 2 from the staff and one from a cocker toting player)

              #1 oh a mag hope you brought a squeegie
              #2 when are you going to give up on those and buy a real gun
              #3 and from the owner ... I still have one of those I use it as a paperweight

              I got to the field chronod and walked on before a game was going to play with the gun a bit
              I rolled the gun from left to right to try to make it chop pst pst pst no chop then I started hacking on the trigger to make it short stroke pst pst pst no chops
              a couple pepople started paying attention and asking questions so I let people try to chop with it ..... nobody could get it to and they were most certanly not being nice to it.

              jared took the feed port off my micro and was continuasly pulling the trigger on a half fed ball and it would not brake it
              we shut alot of people up

              thank you AGD
              I have proudly used your products for many years (not that they were anything but great before)but all I can say is wow
              I really think that this will blow the mags are hard on paint sterotype right out of the water and put your products right where they should be .... in the hands of winning teams

              gliney the mag monkey

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              • spacemanspiff
                A.K.A. (Spacewang)
                • Nov 2001
                • 587

                #22
                This is the 2nd weekend that I've been able to use my LVL1o in my SFL. Well I went to a tourney today and got to show her off. Firt off we had to shot diablo blaze and I didn't have one problem all day. I love it no more squegee for me. Anyway I was sitting inbetween the 2 fields waiting for some one to coment on my SFL and someone did and I told them that it had LVL10 and they were like I proceeded to show them what it was. After taking my barrel and breech off which guy were amazed that it took cocker barrels and angel ball dents:) I showed them what happend when I put my finger in there. One guy whas like dude what are you doing with your finger that will hurt, I gust kinda laughed to myself. Psst, psst and there jaws were on the ground they were like no way how does that do that. They kept asking what pressure i had it set at to do that. I showed them that it was a regular old screw in tank and they couldn't believe it, wheres the reg you have to be dropping that down. Nope sorry just the one and thats built in It was so much fun to show it off and do all the crazy tests. I turned off my revy to show a ref that no matter what it wouldn't break, shot it on its side, put my finger in the breech, etc. I just love this gun and LVL10.

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                • 1stdeadeye
                  Still around????
                  • Jun 2002
                  • 8501

                  #23
                  Level 10 Believer

                  My R/T was in the shop having the on/off valve replaced prior to AO Day II. I also had an Intelliframe installed on it. After making the 2+ hour drive to AO Day II, I was quite dismayed to learn that AGDJon had left my gun at his hotel. I was not happy at the thought of using my back-up Tippman. Ever the salesman, Jon lent me his Mini-Mag with the R/T Valve, Level 10 and warp feed. I shot the cheap paint all day in the heat as fast as I could without a single ball break. The gun absolutely ripped.

                  Needless to say, I just ordered my level 10 Thursday and picked up a warp feed yesterday. All I have left to do is wire my warp to my Intelliframe. Thanks Jon for the incredible product demo!!!!!!

                  All I can say is that it works, it really, really works!

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                  • Patron God of Pirates
                    ~pgop1.0
                    • Apr 2002
                    • 1196

                    #24
                    Install: I spent three hours trying to get it running right only to discover two things-

                    1) I am an idiot
                    2) The kit was missing the backing washer

                    I call up one of the office gals and two days later I've got my washer. In the middle of fine tuning the LV.10 in my RTP, my tank blows an O-Ring, and I'm fresh out.

                    Lv.10 VS. They guys at X-Fire Nashua:

                    So I drive three mins. up the street to X-Fire Paintball in Nashua. Grab a new O-Ring and while I'm at it I ask the Clerk

                    PGoP: "have you seen the Level Ten work yet?"
                    X-Fire Clerk 1: "No, what's that? A new Valve?"
                    PGoP: "Uh.. sort of. It is a new low impact front end."
                    XFC1: "What does it do?"
                    PGoP: "You got an Alan wrench and a pen?"
                    XFC1: "Sure, here you go"

                    He hands me the wrench and pen and I screw in the tank. I adjust the velocity and use the pen to be sure the bolt is hitting nice and soft. At this point the guy is staring at me wondering what I'm doing to his poor pen. I can see visions running through his mind of me blasting pen ink all over his shop.

                    I squeeze off six or seven rounds with the barrel off just to be sure the bolt is resetting etc.

                    Then I stick my finger in the breach through the opening in the powerfeed. At this the guy throws his arms up and moves towards me with a terrified look on his face. Like I'm a newb who's about to blow his finger off in his shop.

                    RTP: "pft pft pft pft pft pft pft"

                    He stops in his tracks

                    XFC1: "Whoa!"
                    PGoP: "Yep, you want to try?"

                    He starts to put his pinkie in the breach and the turns it around so the bolt will hit the soft side.

                    RTP: "pft pft pft pft pft pft pft"

                    XFC1: "Whoa!"
                    PGoP: "Yep."
                    XFC1: " [X-Fire Clerk 2] get out here!!!"

                    The other guy in the shop makes his way out from the back. Having listened to the repetitive "pfting".

                    XFC2: "That sounds healthy"
                    XFC1: "Have you seen this? It changes everything for Mags"

                    We do the demonstration again. XFC2 seems more upset than impressed. Oh well, I think he's a Shocker guy. Level Ten can be very upsetting to Shocker guys.

                    I leave.

                    Lv.10 VS 1 week old AO Day II paint

                    I get home and immediately grab my remaining tube of Kick'n paint from the Jersey party. I had spent the week in my trunk, and bounce tested at 3. I use the barrel twist lock to hold a ball 1/2 way into the breach and proceed to shoot it, allot. How much? I had 2500 PSI left in my 88/4500 Crossfire. I emptied it (well, shot it until the RT wouldn't recharge).

                    Over 400 shots! The thing would not break! I'm betting I could empty a scuba into a marb!

                    Those are my stories for now.

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                    • than205
                      Dancer of the kookie jig!
                      • Dec 2001
                      • 947

                      #25
                      Patron,
                      I told the big guy there at X-fire that Level 10 was coming 3 months ago. I guess he wasn't listening. You try to inform these people....
                      Thanotos

                      http://www.factcheck.org

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                      • covadsucks
                        Got Beer?
                        • Dec 2001
                        • 1324

                        #26
                        I just took my Level 10 Emag out, chrono'd 275 three times in a row and then proceeded out to the field. I shot twelve pods and didn't chop or break any paint at all. I got accused of shooting full auto, made two Angel owners want to trade me, one's board was fried, the other just liked the fact that in Hybrid mode it outshot his crumby Dark Angel LCD. I am thinking of now selling my newest Timmy as the Emag outperformed it handily. Tom -Level 10 is the greatest!!!!!


                        "When you get married, you learn really quick that there's a good time, and a not so good time, to start playin' snap-shooting-from-behind-the-couch moves with a brand new $1,000 paintball gun." -Jack & Coke

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                        • Arturus
                          Registered User
                          • Jun 2001
                          • 493

                          #27
                          For weeks now, since returning to the forum and learning about the lvl 10, I've been sharing as much about the lvl 10 as I can. From the local shops to the field I visit. The refs and the local stores knew almost nothing about it. They did have misconceptions, such as how the lvl 10 makes the Mag into a low pressure gun as to be gentle on paint.

                          One of the store had a high speed internet connection, so I decided to bring them to AO and show him what the lvl 10 is capable of. They were in disbelief and as everyone has heard so often now, "Mags might make a come back." I'll be taking my Rt Pro to the shop sometime in the next 2 weeks, as I made a promise to give a demo for them.



                          AS for the field I visited yesterday, the refs immediately asked upon seeing my Mag if I was going to install the lvl 10 kit in my marker. I told them I already did. The whole day, they asked if I had chopped yet. Finally they couldn't resist and asked if they could try my marker out. Two of them proceeded to fire it, and one immediately pointed out how smooth the trigger was. All he could say was, "sweet...." At the end of the day, they dared me to rip the rest of my paint by the Chrono. I emptied a full revvy as fast as I could. The ref shouted out, "chop chop chop." I turned around and shouted back, "Not one chop!"

                          They were impressed. One of the refs has a Mag lying around somewhere in his home and he'll be ordering the lvl 10 kit in. Even better news, I saw two mag owners on the field. The most I've ever seen at one time in southern California. One's had his Mag for 8-10 years now and he's more than happy with it. I told him about the lvl 10 kit and told him to visit the forum. He asked me several times for the address, which to me means he was definately interested.

                          I rarely chopped before installing the lvl 10. Only on 4 occasions have I chopped. I can recall all of them to you if you'd like. I bought the kit so that it adds another lvl of protection where it insures I will not be sitting on the side cleaning my gun when I could be playing instead.

                          In short I'm a happy guy.

                          **************************************************

                          At the field I've somehow become to be known as the Mag guy. With my recent Warp Feed addition, I get more attention than ever. I recieve comments such as

                          "That's a killer gun... what the hell is that... That thing looks awesome."

                          The best is from Timmy and Angel owners who ask:

                          "That's an RT right? Is it fast? How accurate is it?... Can I shoot it?"

                          With the accuracy question, I promptly respond accuracy has mostly to do with your paint to barrel match. (Yes, it's more complicated than that, especially since most people mistake accuracy with consistency. However, I see it's best left with the first statement. Either they'll take it or leave it.)

                          The best is when my friends point out people just staring at my marker through their mask with wide open eyes. This has to be the funniest though... While in the middle of the game, a kid doesn't realize I have a warp feed and shouts to me, "Hey your hopper fell off!!"

                          NOTE: I think cockers are great markers. Same with the angel and infact, I wouldn't mind having a timmy. What I am is a very happy guy with a Mag, and would like to make sure at the field that whatever 'myth' players have about Mags be corrected. If it means having them impressed with the 'look' of my Mag, then so be it. From there I can correctly answer their questions.

                          Sorry for the long post and going off topic a bit.

                          Last edited by Arturus; 07-28-2002, 09:11 PM.

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                          • frankendreads
                            Registered User
                            • May 2002
                            • 5

                            #28
                            well what can i say
                            a bril job on the level 10
                            i had it installed @ a tornie in minutes by mr sosta esq
                            and then went out 2 play our second game
                            now i play as a back/mid player so therefore shoot quite an ammount out
                            we were using a rather brittle paint on the day
                            and talk about like having a new marker
                            not one of our teams broke any paint 9apart from accidently firing into our gun socks)
                            just to make more of this point
                            the other teams we were playing against were getting breaks

                            also our shots were flying straight as well
                            a good day was had by all
                            so therefore
                            thanks agd and to john sosta and agd europe
                            a good gun now even better

                            greg
                            aka bagpipe hedz
                            I like the smell of paintball in the morning....
                            smells like pooooning!!!!!

                            :shooting:
                            if u see me then it is too late!! :shooting:

                            frankendreads :headbang:
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                            • netjunk1e
                              Oil my gun? Why???
                              • Feb 2001
                              • 202

                              #29
                              I got my lvl 10 up and it works great! The bolt will not chop balls(0 bounce Diablo) but the opposite side will cit the shell after 5 to 15 hits from the bolt. I love it, usually it would have creamed the ball. (that did not sound good)
                              Robbie

                              Good Traders : LoadSM5 BTAutoMag

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                              • Dayspring
                                aka- The Day Wang

                                • May 2001
                                • 9664

                                #30
                                Skirmish USA

                                Got to play at Skirmish USA today. I had to have the tech help me out (blew the feed nipple o-ring on my tank) and he asked if it was one of the NEW RT-mags (new RT?) Anyway, I mentioned it was an original except for the LX mod. He asked what it was and I was more than happy to show him the finger trick. He thought it was so cool, that he took it and showed all the Tech's. Also got to show it to the people I played with. (Granted I got accused of full auto use today) Wanted to see how I was able to not chop anything as fast as I was shooting. I was MORE than willing to show them. And to tell them about the "Infamous Tongue Video"

                                GREAT WORK TOM & AGD TEAM!!!

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