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  • paintbattler
    Mags > Cockers
    • Nov 2001
    • 2754

    #16
    man, thats awesome
    Someone took away my cool sig. *cough*mod*cough*

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    • CRog075
      Registered User
      • Jun 2002
      • 763

      #17
      Originally posted by paintbattler
      man, thats awesome
      the gun?

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      • joeyjoe367
        Confirmed 11 bps RT User!
        • May 2001
        • 1982

        #18
        hey, isn't webbie looking for old guns?

        ...he probably owns one already

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        • irbodden
          Registered User
          • Dec 2000
          • 3413

          #19
          Guys, it isn't worth anythings. I remember a guy a couple years ago, KP Customs I think.., who was selling them for 20 a piece in that condition..

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          • CRog075
            Registered User
            • Jun 2002
            • 763

            #20
            Originally posted by irbodden
            Guys, it isn't worth anythings. I remember a guy a couple years ago, KP Customs I think.., who was selling them for 20 a piece in that condition..
            That dont sound right, mayb a diff version of the gun.

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            • kemikos
              Registered User
              • Mar 2002
              • 84

              #21
              Originally posted by CRog075


              That dont sound right, mayb a diff version of the gun.
              There's so many old, beat up PGP's floating around that they don't pull in that much. Keep in mind that they cost around $100-120 brand new, with all the modern updates that make it easier to play with.

              That one might be worth something to a collector, just because of the age. I'd guess you might be able to get $50 or so for it, if it works OK. Maybe a little more if it's upgraded at all (by a professional shop, that is; "garage mods" were very common back then, and usually lower the value a bit).
              Everybody else seems to have a picture of their 'Mag in their sig, so what the heck; here's mine:

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              • OtterSC
                Lutraphobia!
                • Jan 2002
                • 16

                #22
                first off, thank you all for the mention. :)

                that is a PGP. looks like in fair condition.

                has front and rear sights. brown grips... original. knurled metal pump. age is around 1986-1989. however, it doesn't have the ball bearings. knock that down to 1984-1986. i would lean more towards 86 if not 85.

                not bad at all. you have a nice one.

                if you sold it as is on ebay, you could get $50-$80 out of it. though, some of the hard core PGP'ers will buy it for $40-$50. they figure that there are plenty around. i sold two of mine on ebay for $60 & $70. about the same age and with custom wood grip panels.

                there does seem to be missing an end cap for the ball magazine (top tube). is it missing? if missing, you have two options. actually, three.

                1) get a piece of aluminum. about 2" long. drill and tap for a set screw to secure the tube to the marker. you may need to make an insert to secure a 10rnd tube in place. it would look like the pic below.


                2) find a replacement end cap. i may have one. not sure.

                3) contact Marshal Founder from the paintball marshals. he has a nice design for a "speed loader" it is similar to what i have on my KP3. stick the tube in, point the marker down, push lever. no worries about loosing endcaps.


                hope that helped some.

                OT: my newest acquisition... bolt action K2. :)
                Markers: 4 PGP's, Phantom, BE 1st Gen. Nightmare, 5 Spyders, EM1, K2, KP3
                Site: www.ottersccustoms.com
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                • Webmaster
                  Former Moderator

                  • Oct 2000
                  • 1765

                  #23
                  SC Otter is correct on his estimations of worth. $50-$80 would be a good price frome someone on ebay. Not horribly valuable - but nice.

                  Id take it off your hands - as I collect old guns - but Im broke right now...

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                  • alkafluence
                    Slave to the Traffic Light
                    • Jun 2002
                    • 543

                    #24
                    Originally posted by OtterSC
                    first off, thank you all for the mention. :)

                    that is a PGP. looks like in fair condition.

                    has front and rear sights. brown grips... original. knurled metal pump. age is around 1986-1989. however, it doesn't have the ball bearings. knock that down to 1984-1986. i would lean more towards 86 if not 85.

                    not bad at all. you have a nice one.

                    if you sold it as is on ebay, you could get $50-$80 out of it. though, some of the hard core PGP'ers will buy it for $40-$50. they figure that there are plenty around. i sold two of mine on ebay for $60 & $70. about the same age and with custom wood grip panels.

                    there does seem to be missing an end cap for the ball magazine (top tube). is it missing? if missing, you have two options. actually, three.
                    If you've ever played Paintball Dave's (Milwaukee, Wisconsin) indoor, all you can use is PGP's. Some of them are near that vintage with the knurled hand grips.

                    As for the options of replacing the end cap. Most people replace them with speed loaders, which you might want to do. Additionally, people who do replace them often tend to keep their old caps. So you might be able to get one off of them.

                    For some other random info on PGP's check here.

                    And finally for some more intensive upgrades like a rear velocity adjuster, etc. - check here.


                    I'm not under the alkafluence of inkahol that some thinkle peep I am. It's just the drunker I sit here the longer I get...

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                    • BTAutoMag
                      AO's Problem Child
                      • Oct 2001
                      • 7199

                      #25
                      wow that shotgun looking thing is a pgp!!!!!! what did you do to it
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                      • banzaimf
                        fat boys don't run
                        • Jun 2001
                        • 683

                        #26
                        Originally posted by BTAutoMag
                        wow that shotgun looking thing is a pgp!!!!!! what did you do to it
                        The "shotgun looking thing" is an old KP series sheridan marker. The p-68, pgp, and kp's all looked pretty much the same for the bottom 2 tubes, with the top tube being different dependong on configuration (ie rock and cock or straight feed).

                        Palmer may still put out Hurricanes which were semi auto'd versions of the kp series. A little stiff on the pull, but man they shot nice.
                        minimag #1321

                        Xmag #267

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                        • CRog075
                          Registered User
                          • Jun 2002
                          • 763

                          #27
                          Thanks for the info.

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