WAS - Matter at PB Nation resolved...

[cledford]

[Jonno06]

members of AO uncovering the dirt,and the truth like usual...good job guys...

[DiRTyBuNNy]

yes..thanks to the guys who provided the light...now the other people who jumped in like it was some forum dogpile..well...please don't do that next time, ok?

[Coaster]

can we get a link to this thread?

[shartley]

Originally posted by Coaster
can we get a link to this thread?

Did you miss the very clearly posted part about the thread being deleted?

[rudy]

I can't believe Bob is hooked up with such a creep.

that statement would imply that bob is some how not a creep himself

[Coaster]

Re: WAS - Matter at PB Nation resolved...

Originally posted by cledford

I meant this one.

[shartley]

ahhhh Now I see said the blind man...

Oh, where is my coffee?

[EnderWigginPballin]

Originally posted by DiRTyBuNNy
...now the other people who jumped in like it was some forum dogpile..well...please don't do that next time, ok?

yeah, I guess I might have sounded like a jerk to WAS... But I'm still not buying any WAS stuff, ever

[gatorchris]

The real reason any informed timmy owner would get this board over the SOB is the eye/bolt logic. The current boards dont have any, and if you're fast enough the eye will see the bolt returning in the breach and think its a ball, allowing it to fire before the next ball is fed. The WAS board has the bolt timing built in to the firing logic, so it wont accept a pull until the bolt is returned. I had to put my delay on my SOB up to 30 ms to keep it from chopping on my GZ because of this problem, and I run a Halo B!

[manike]

hey Gatorchris,

It's nice to have you over here I should be getting an Intimidator at some point in the future also so it's nice to have people around that know them!

Don't get us wrong, most of us believe WAS makes good electronics, just not as good as he says or rather doesn't necessarily do/fix what he claims and in my opinion there is certainly something dodgy about the things he says and the way he promotes his products.

Every time someone proves him wrong he ignores them and it's like water off a ducks back. He has gotten away with BS'ing a lot of people but made the mistake of thinking no-one would challenge his hype. Granted a lot of people do not know enough to challenge him, and so he gets away with it, but some do and are willing to speak up, he tried to bluff a few of us in private to stop our questioning and it just proved he was even more full of it. I think he got proven to be rather silly just lately and it's very lucky for him that the PBN server crashed and deleted all the posts pointing out the issues...

I think the boards would sell well without the BS and outrageous claims he makes. They are good products in their own right.

manike

[gatorchris]

I dont disagree Manike, I was one of the timmy owners on his butt looking for the answers to Calvin's questions. I was also the person that suggested you become the pball consumer reports, and make another section in this forum for it. I just wanted to clarify the strongest point of his board that most people overlook from a performance pov. The eye on a timmy is worthless without a little logic behind it.

I havent bought any WAS products to date, so I cant say good or bad about his stuff. I can say that he isnt very good at tap dancing, but he is genuinely smart. Smart needs direction though, which seems to be lacking in some of his work, or at least was implied with his answers. I troubleshot avionics and electrical systems on military aircraft for 6 years, first thing you do is duplicate the problem before chasing sparks, barring safety issues. Im now a team lead for software and computer engineers, they are the same way about issues, very intelligent and want try very intricate ways to resolve issues when it can be painfully simple. If the room is dark, you can break out a multimeter, take down the light fixture and read voltage. You can also check the friggin switch to see if its on, he chose the former

[manike]

Originally posted by gatorchris
I troubleshot avionics and electrical systems on military aircraft for 6 years, first thing you do is duplicate the problem before chasing sparks, barring safety issues. Im now a team lead for software and computer engineers, they are the same way about issues, very intelligent and want try very intricate ways to resolve issues when it can be painfully simple. If the room is dark, you can break out a multimeter, take down the light fixture and read voltage. You can also check the friggin switch to see if its on, he chose the former

Stick around It's not all mags, there's a lot of other high level discussion based around paintball that happens here and you may find it interesting. This forum and Have Blue are the ones to watch for the real 'meaty' topics. We'd certainly welcome more people with your kind of experience and attitude!

manike

[shartley]

[wyn1370]

Originally posted by rudy


that statement would imply that bob is some how not a creep himself

and do you have dealings with him that you can back this up with. I personally have never had a problem with Bob or anyone at his shop and find this to be insulting.