First to answer hitechs point.
As pressure drops off in the spyder it will take longer and longer to cycle. It will also run into cycling issues. It will never "get better" with time. When we did the testing to see how long the spyder would take to recock it was running less then 400psi. With the current setup it's being fed 800+psi.
The gun won't take longer than 20ms to cycle. Now Given that 20ms is the time it takes to cycle, that points that the gun is resting for 15ms between shots at 30bps. And that seems to agree with the data we've been shown. If the gun were not cycling properly, there would be a "beat down" effect, and you'd see the period between bursts of air drop.
Also, if the gun were not catching the sear, it the rate of fire would most likely not match the 30bps we have it set for. and that the gun IS fireing.
There are many possiable reasons for the solinoid not unlatching for that last shot. We're running 12volts through a solinoid that normally would only see 6-8volts. Given the 6ms pulls and that it fires for half a seccond the innner coils on the solinoid could be heating enough that it's not pulling the sear far enough. Though that's something we'll be working on this weekend. The frame is still being debugged.
What would help is constructive criticism instead of the "we dont' believe you" factor. Though it appears we're on our own for the tuning.
Shartly:
You bring up many valid points. What it comes down to is that the gun is functioning fine. It's the frame that's the issue. It's failing the drop the sear on that last shot. the gun IS recocking though.
From what I've seen no matter what evidence is provided, it will not be believed.
I'm anoyed because it's questions that have been answered before, several times. Same as "why dont' mags have more range"
And then just to quell any questions if the gun were cycling or not.
If the gun were not catching the sear, due to the pressure dropoff the gun's cycle time would change. Also if the gun were not cycling properly it would not engage the sear at the end of the burst. Also if the gun were not cycling properly it would be cycling at a rate of about 20ms instead of 35ms. *sighs*
for us to produce a sound file of a spyder doing 30 bps without the frame functioning as we say we'd need to add massive weights to the bolt and hammer. The bolt and hammer are both stock peices.
The gun can't be "partially" cycling. We can also post a demonstration of the gun at 20 and 25bps to show we have control of the rate of fire.
Before 314159 made the 30bps sound file. He called me and demonstrated the gun at 20 bps as well. We have control of the rate of fire. If the gun were not fully cycling we would not have this control.
As pressure drops off in the spyder it will take longer and longer to cycle. It will also run into cycling issues. It will never "get better" with time. When we did the testing to see how long the spyder would take to recock it was running less then 400psi. With the current setup it's being fed 800+psi.
The gun won't take longer than 20ms to cycle. Now Given that 20ms is the time it takes to cycle, that points that the gun is resting for 15ms between shots at 30bps. And that seems to agree with the data we've been shown. If the gun were not cycling properly, there would be a "beat down" effect, and you'd see the period between bursts of air drop.
Also, if the gun were not catching the sear, it the rate of fire would most likely not match the 30bps we have it set for. and that the gun IS fireing.
There are many possiable reasons for the solinoid not unlatching for that last shot. We're running 12volts through a solinoid that normally would only see 6-8volts. Given the 6ms pulls and that it fires for half a seccond the innner coils on the solinoid could be heating enough that it's not pulling the sear far enough. Though that's something we'll be working on this weekend. The frame is still being debugged.
What would help is constructive criticism instead of the "we dont' believe you" factor. Though it appears we're on our own for the tuning.
Shartly:
You bring up many valid points. What it comes down to is that the gun is functioning fine. It's the frame that's the issue. It's failing the drop the sear on that last shot. the gun IS recocking though.
From what I've seen no matter what evidence is provided, it will not be believed.
I'm anoyed because it's questions that have been answered before, several times. Same as "why dont' mags have more range"
And then just to quell any questions if the gun were cycling or not.
If the gun were not catching the sear, due to the pressure dropoff the gun's cycle time would change. Also if the gun were not cycling properly it would not engage the sear at the end of the burst. Also if the gun were not cycling properly it would be cycling at a rate of about 20ms instead of 35ms. *sighs*
for us to produce a sound file of a spyder doing 30 bps without the frame functioning as we say we'd need to add massive weights to the bolt and hammer. The bolt and hammer are both stock peices.
The gun can't be "partially" cycling. We can also post a demonstration of the gun at 20 and 25bps to show we have control of the rate of fire.
Before 314159 made the 30bps sound file. He called me and demonstrated the gun at 20 bps as well. We have control of the rate of fire. If the gun were not fully cycling we would not have this control.
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