What do you use to get a good sight picture?

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  • Deftonius
    I wish I was cool like TK
    • Apr 2002
    • 34

    #16
    I choose to pray THEN spray...Because the balls have probably already hit something by the time you say "I know I haven't been the best christian..."
    Sean "Deftonius" Coutts
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    • aaron_mag
      Registered User
      • Jul 2002
      • 1375

      #17
      Originally posted by Deftonius
      I choose to pray THEN spray...Because the balls have probably already hit something by the time you say "I know I haven't been the best christian..."
      Good point!!!!

      I think it partially depends on what you play most. I'm planning on getting the Dye Izon but I know it will be virtually useless in speedball. In woodsball it might help a little more when you actually have a chance to aim. Really I just want to fiddle with it....
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      • personman

        #18
        I dont aim. Aiming is for stupid people. Who aims anyway?

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        • Tyril
          the easily distracted
          • Apr 2002
          • 253

          #19
          About the Armson... make sure you try it out before you buy! I've used my friend's, and with my glasses and left eye dominance, I cannot get any sort of decent picture with it. Works fine for him, however.

          -mike

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          • j.t.
            enter title here
            • Sep 2001
            • 363

            #20
            Only time i would use a sight is if i had a pump and an armson pro-dot. When your playing stock you just cant walk the paintballs onto target like you can with a semi.

            I know a guy who has a phantom with one on it and he is AMAZING with it. (once eliminated 9 players in a speedaball game with a little over 10 balls )

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            • magman007
              I <3 my Penis
              • Jun 2001
              • 7579

              #21
              hmmm, i usually use my paint rope, as i took the sight rail off of my e-mag. Also, the armson sights are nice, but smaller, sleeker, and more expensive are the dye izon sights, there pretty spiffy. i just think they look nicer than the armsons.



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              • aaron_mag
                Registered User
                • Jul 2002
                • 1375

                #22
                Izon more expensive? My local store sells them for the same price....
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                • shartley
                  paintball player
                  • Mar 2001
                  • 9169

                  #23

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                  • ogre55
                    a.k.a. Ogre Wang
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 524

                    #24
                    I guess it depends on the situation. I'm a mid-back player, but I like to know where my balls are going, even the first one. One the run and sweet-spotting at the break, I sight down the barrel and follow the paint.

                    If I'm in position and throwing suppression fire, I don't even bother aiming, as the point is to keep heads down and allow your front guys to get where they are going.

                    However, if I'm going for the elimination on a guy behind a bunker, I take shots sparingly. Spraying the bunker will keep the opponent's head down and you want him to come up, so I use 2-3 shot bursts to dare him to stick his head out. Then when he does, I whack him with a goggle shot. This is when sights are important. You want that 1st shot on the money.

                    As for what sight, I can't comment on the the Armsons or Izons as I am blind in my right eye. I prefer the Square Shooter from ADCO. It's a good sight with a large reticle, which reduces tunnel-vision when I you use it.

                    If you are not using the Armson/IZON you need to get a red dot with no magnification (as it is unneccasary and magnified sights require you to line up the shot, which takes too long in a game like paintball) and as large a reticle as you can afford. At least 30mm, maybe even as high as 45mm.
                    Seeg images? Vee don' need no steenkin' seeg images?!?

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                    • Evil Bob
                      Evil Overlord
                      • Jul 2001
                      • 1217

                      #25
                      I use a 42mm red dot sight as seen on the EMag here . Its made by BSA (cheap chinese product), you can get them at Cabela's web site, they're water and shock resistant. I've worn the blueing off of it playing paintball. Its been hit, dropped, cleaned, and generally abused countless times on the front lens and still functions flawlessly.

                      Like the square shooter, it's a fast sight to pick up visually and is set for 30 yards, anything beyond that and it's indirect artillery.
                      For snap shooting, it's dead on since the sight pictures is very large and the dot is highly visible, no need to take time to line it up, just raise and shoot. That was my one complaint of using the Armson OEG, the sight picture is too small and takes too much time to pick up the dot, plus you can't see through the OEG at all, moving to a larger sight cured this problem. Distance is also hard to gage with just one eye, using view through optics gives you full depth perception. I shoulder my emag and the sight is so large I can't miss the dot.

                      Those who are anti sights have usually never used one correctly or have used magnified hunting scopes which are completely useless in paintball. Dot sights are normally zero magnification, so you can use both eyes, no need to squint or close one eye to focus on the target, keep both eyes open and put the little red dot on the target.

                      I have people come up to me all the time and ask me about the dot sight, I let them try it out and shoot with it, others laugh and point ignorantly, those I just smile. I know exactly where my first rounds are going, I don't have to walk paint on target, nor do I have to guess, just put the dot on the spot I want to hit and send `em walking. I later hear comments like "that guy is shooting darts", "he never misses", or "ah man, how come you're on the other team??"

                      -Evil Bob

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                      • aaron_mag
                        Registered User
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 1375

                        #26
                        I play mostly rec (including speedball) so I don't want to use the "paint rope" method for two reasons. The first is, of course, cost. Those paint ropes are pretty expensive. The second is that alot of people leave a little showing when they are behind a bunker. After the first miss, however, they realize they are exposed and tighten up. If I could just get them on the first shot I'd get them before they could shoot back and save paint!

                        Hopefully the Dye Izon will work for me the way the square shooter works for Evil Bob.... Did that armson help at all Bob? For those of us with vertical feeds/powerfeeds the square shooter won't work for us that well.
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                        • ogre55
                          a.k.a. Ogre Wang
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 524

                          #27
                          Originally posted by aaron_mag
                          For those of us with vertical feeds/powerfeeds the square shooter won't work for us that well. [/B]
                          Standard red dots will not work with vert feeds, but they will work with power feeds. You need to maked sure that if you purchase a sight with a mounting mechanism already attached that the sight is somewhat raised so that you can see over your power-feed. If you have to buy sight rings then make sure that they are raised enough so that they clear the power-feed.

                          Ogre
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                          • Evil Bob
                            Evil Overlord
                            • Jul 2001
                            • 1217

                            #28
                            OEG's (ocluded eye gunsights) work well for vertical feeds. I use the same 42mm dot sight on my eclipse cocker with veritcal feed, I just put the dust cover over the lens to black it out and keep both eyes open.

                            As you can see in my emag picts, I use a warp on a power feed body, the emag sight rail positions the sight up high enough that the PF doen't get in the way at all, the sight picture is so awesome with the warp, zero tunnel vision.

                            -Evil Bob

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                            • ogre55
                              a.k.a. Ogre Wang
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 524

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Evil Bob
                              OEG's (ocluded eye gunsights) work well for vertical feeds. I use the same 42mm dot sight on my eclipse cocker with veritcal feed, I just put the dust cover over the lens to black it out and keep both eyes open.

                              -Evil Bob
                              How do you do that and does it work if you are blind in on eye, like me.

                              Ogre
                              Last edited by ogre55; 08-27-2002, 05:00 AM.
                              Seeg images? Vee don' need no steenkin' seeg images?!?

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                              • slayer
                                Registered User
                                • May 2001
                                • 669

                                #30
                                aiming is great, if no one has a bead on you. Otherwise you will have to learn to snap shoot. 2-3 shots and get behind your bunker.
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