What do you think of the z valve From Galactic systemz Inc.?

[AssassN]

If you want my real opinion i say retro valve, but i respect the fact that you dont have the money.

[alf]

a.t.s.

i have a z-valve...i bought it used for $25...i used it one day, took it out and ordered a retro...

if you want, ill send it to you FOR FREE, so you can try it...if you like it, send me whatever you feel its worth...

if you dont like it, just send it back

it BARELY made the trigger lighter, and caused me to chop about 8 balls that day...

-alf

[A.T.S]

LOLOLOL

alf-
Did it push your finger back? Did the balls break because of short stroke? How exactly did it feal? I might be interested in your offer.

[alf]

it didnt push my finger back...im SURE of that...

it DID make it a little lighter, but not much more than that...

as for the shortstroking, it COULD be, but i kinda doubt it

pm my your address...ill drop it in an envelope

-alf

[A.T.S]

Alf you hava pm

[Dayspring]

I was hoping this silliness was over by now... Guess not.

Enjoy the new part man. Let us know about your experience please.

[A.T.S]

lol Dayspring, I enjoy your bewilderment.After my research today I expect nothing dissatisfaction from this product. However curiosity has the best of me. For the price of a few stamps, I am willing to give it a try. I will let you know the outcome and am prepared for the "I told you so." Lol Have a wonderful night!!!

[Beano357]

Galactic Systems Z-Valve

I have used the on/off assm. so called the "z-valve" It dose change the trigger a little bit. Not nearly as much as the ReTro will. It is comparable but not the same. Try it out, if you like it great. Its all a matter of opinion. If you do get one make sure to set the regulator nut ccw with the least amount of velocity before taking the valve apart, seat the reg pin and spring then skrew the valve back together. The reg nut needs to be set far back as possible to ensure you dont bend the reg pin. Set the velocity clock wise with 1/8 turns that should be good for 10-20 fps per 1/8 turn.

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[Miscue]

Re: TRAID

Originally posted by A.T.S
I am not trying to disrespect anyone!! The reason that I was not satisfied with Miscue's response was because my question was not specific enough. That is why I tried to clarify my situation and the question. I have listened to every reply. (In Dayspring's reply I missed the part about the Re designed airflow oops!!! However that does not mean that the Z-valve design is not reactive.) So far I have learned that people do not like them I still want to know why people do not like them. I would like a logical explanation of why they do, or do not work. Or an account of someone using one. I realize that you are trying to help me I just think that I have been failing to communicate clearly.

I've written pages and pages and pages of what I think about the Z-Valve for the past two years. I've answered this question approximate 286.3 times... and it's not a quick answer. Many of these posts are easily searchable.

Bottom line is... I'm not going to try to convince you that you should tie your shoes and not run with scissors.

Ok, maybe one more time.

Z-Valve is not quality. Their tolerances are shotty. If you are lucky, you can find one that doesn't act up. Problems include: Leaking, shootdown, failure to fire, firing more than one ball per pull, and my personal favorite: firing after sitting on a table for a few minutes with the safety on. After fighting with getting one particular Z-Valve to work in a gun (like usual), I gave up after it was becoming a safety issue.

A lot of the problems involve the pin being an incorrect length (not the only problem), which you will not run into when using an untampered AGD part.

AGD techs have bags of these things that they have pulled out to fix broken guns... that should say something.

Sure, some Z-Valves work 'ok' (otherwise they would not sell at all right?!). You have a lightened trigger pull due to the tapered pin, nothing magic about it. The 'Retro-like reactivity' is a joke really. Even if the dang thing 'works,' you're more likely to shortstroke and do all sorts of stuff like that. You know what... it's not worth it... not a significant improvement IMO. Use that money towards a RetroValve and you will be WAY happier.

287.3 times and counting.

[Dayspring]

Maybe he'll listen to you as opposed to the 2 pages of people telling him the same thing.

It's his $ though and far be it from me to tell him how to spend it wisely (unless asked for advice). Oh wait....

[A.T.S]

Thank you Miscue

In the future I will try to do better searches before I ask a question.

[Miscue]

http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=3987&highlight=zvalve

Another old z-valve thread...

[A.T.S]

Thank you Miscue