Spyders bad?? I thought so until...

[FalconGuy016]

I always thought spyders were crap.

I still think they basically are.

Then I read the reviews for the Flash and the AMG.
Does anyone own an AMG? Do you think I should buy the AMG? (no matter what I am still getting a minimag, but this year I can get something like an AMG, but is it worth it?)

[mike e]

spyders arent crap

one of the guys on the top rated local team had a cocker go down, and he played with a stock spyder with a jandj and he completly would devastate anyone there. its really not the gun at all. AMG's are nice, very adjustable trigger, doesnt seem to suffer quite as much from bolt stick when shell gets in there like some spyders, all and all not a bad gun. i recomend it to noobs who want "electro" dont say any gun is crap ive even seen and built some kickin BE's dont knock stuff just because you dont like it our had a bad experience with it


not a flame

i just regard these one marker is better then another threads as i do the "closed bolt shoots farther" threads

[xmetal2001]

They are good guns. But also they are all the same. Some have electro grips, some have flashy annodization, some have huge expansion chambers, but when it comes down to it they all shoot the same. (Spyders, Piranas, etc.)

[dawump]

Watching people chrono spiders last saturday I was actually pretty impressed. The velocity with CO2 was dead on consistent.. which made me a little jealous.

I took one apart once though and wasn't impressed. It's like taking a cheap ball point pen apart.

Keith

[Automaggin2]

Spyders are very very very good guns for the money. i had one for 2 years and i wish i still had it. they are very consistent, but there are some many rip offs of them now, like Pirhanas, BOSSs....the list goes on

[MagKoko]

i had problems with the quality of the gun... oh well, that's just my problem.

[aaron_mag]

I think Spyders are excellent for the price. Tippmanns are good as well but they are so darn hard to clean.

Now as for them being consistant????? The major problem I see with Spyders and the clones is that they usually shoot hot right out of the factory. You have to either cut the spring or buy a spring kit to get them shooting at a safe velocity.

Still some of my friends play with them and they aren't too bad. I'd be lying if I said I hadn't been marked by them .

[TheBigRaguPB4L]

I've never seen a spyder shoot all that consistantly. I think they have such a bad rep because you fill them with liquid co2 and they're pretty much useless. You get a decent nitro tank, polish the internals and a you got a nice gun. I'd rather shoot almost any mag next to a spyder, but that's just me. The best part about having a spyder is playing with the oppositions' heads. No one thinks they're going to be taken out by a spyder.

[rudy]

was this review in a paintball magazine it probably sounded pretty good cause they almost never write anythign bad and when the last month they rated a regular spyder as a awsome gun.... they have to go up some with an electronic version. to be honest you might just want to buy one if you need an electro. but i wont make any garentees. in the years I have serviced guns the kingman markers have always had a few more problems then most others and the tippmanns a few less. as far as consistency with good springs and a good reg most of them will get great consistency, but thats the catch almost none have a good reg if one at all. other wise its all abotu the kick of a gun. and blow backs suffer from quite a bit of kick cause they are sear released and have a striker valve. so it will be a little harder to keep your gun on target then most high end guns

[Dern]

Hey... I have a Pirahnha... PMI EXT PRO G3 It does ok for me... but it is only my first (and only gun, but soon I will have me an RT PRO) and it is exactly the same as the spyders. Every part on spyders and PMI's are almost exactly the same (parts kits, barrels, bolts). I think it is because they both get the same parts that are made cheaply in factories in Asia . Anyway... I consider spyders and piranhas the same since i have used both enough to judge them. I must say if you want to get into paintball get something simple like a spyder or a piranha. They are low cost, easy-to-upgrade, and they will last well until you upgrade to another gun. I'm still using mine, and it works fine for me. Their are a few minor setbacks with quality I think, but overall, I must say companies like Kingman, PMI, 32 degrees, and all the other "low-end," entry-level marker-makers (tongue twister hehe) have done a good job of popularizing paintball to what it is today. If Paintball guns cost 300$ for just the marker, I would not have started playing paintball and I'm sure MANY other people would not have either. YAY FOR CHEAP MARKERS!

[shartley]

[cphilip]

...actualy they are very consistent...On High Pressure Air.

[shartley]

HeeHee.. that is true. And we know how many people use HPA with their Spyders.

But yes.... you sir are correct.

[aaron_mag]

On the subject of kick......

The Spyder has a ton of kick. If you want to see how little kick a mag has play without a motorized hopper. When I play woods I don't like the noise of a motorized hopper. The kick is so light on a mag that the balls will not feed! You have to shake it up to get it to feed a ball. You don't have this problem with a Spyder (not a good thing).

I can't tell you the number of times I've been taken out with my buddies in woodsball because I thought I had some balls in the elbow but I was shooting air.

These sort of quality issues, durability, and ease of maintenance is what puts the mag above the clones (not to start with level 10 and retrovalve!!!)

[kevdupuis]

Another nice thing about the inexpensive blowback. Is that when you relegate it to backup/spare you get to have fun doing weird and nasty things to it and not have to worry about it being up and running right away.
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