AMERICA (and the Free World) STRIKES BACK ! (Official thread)

[cphilip]

Here we go. Kabul under attack. Keep it here and keep it clean. God bless America.

[TylerDurden]

Let the games begin.

[zvanut]

i just heard that

[Magsrule3]

Cruise missile's rock!

[SuperOrangeTicTac]

the beginning of the possible end. hopefully not. God bless America

[X-Plosive]

underground caves ayy? Hmmm I wonder how succesful this bombing will be, afterall they're bombing people and then dropping food.

[manike]

dropping food will probably be more effective than the bombs... If we do not keep the Islam people on side this will escalate to the ultimate heights.

We must just target the terrorists and supporters while doing everything possible to keep the normal civilians on side, if we alienate the islam people this situation will never end.

manike

[TylerDurden]

The only bad thing that could happen with the food is if the terrorists take it. If the terrorists are in caves then even if the bombs don't blow them up, they will bury them.

[cphilip]

Originally posted by manike
dropping food will probably be more effective than the bombs... If we do not keep the Islam people on side this will escalate to the ultimate heights.

We must just target the terrorists and supporters while doing everything possible to keep the normal civilians on side, if we alienate the islam people this situation will never end.

manike

Amen Brother! Amen! Seems to be the plan. And a good one at that. We must not stoop to thier level. The Muslim people do not deserve that. They need our help too. We must be compasionate towords them and not judge them for what a few misguded individuals might do in their name.

And by the way Manike, On behalf of America...Thanks for your help and support.

[manike]

Yeah just watched Bush's address and then Blair's, looks like at the moment it's just the US and the UK invloved although 'supported' by 38 other countries... apparently the action is using British resources, although it's not clear if that means one of our air bases in India (a British colony there on an Island) or if it means our subs with cruise missiles.

I agree with this action, but I also have a huge sense of foreboding. Terrorists and extremists have no rule book or sense of ethics on their side, there is no 'Geneva rules' governing their actions. It may (and I suspect will) get nasty.

We must not let it become a war which alienates the Muslim people or Islam faith. That's why I think our humanitarian effort is the most important weapon we have towards 'winning' this conflict. And obviously so do our leaders judging from the speeches they are giving.

My thoughts are for all our military and the people's of our countries. I don't think it will just be our military who will be affected by this conflict. I've been subjected to the impact of terrorism before (IRA) and so we as people at home also need to take greater care and to ensure we know our enemy and do not allow race or hate to affect how we deal with Islam and Muslim people.

Islam and Muslims are not our enemy, terrorists are.

manike

(who is not afraid to say that this conflict scares him)

** edited to make my point about terrorists clearer **

[jas142]

They say that if they strike back it will most likely be with Biological weapons (Anthrax, small pox, plague, or ebola...) I really hope not.

I'm very happy to see us taking some action though! I wish all of the pilots and soldiers of the allied forces good luck!

[manike]

UPDATE.

Apparently British Planes, survellaince craft, submarines and our air base at a small British Territory Island in India in the gulf, are all being used in this action.

Sounds like just US and UK forces involved so far, although there are rumours of Canada and the French being involved also...

[Temo Vryce]

You it's a real shame that it has come to this, but you know who I really feel sorry for, other than those who lost someone on Sept 11, are the Islamic people here in Canada and in the US. These people are being shunned and avoided when possible. It is very hard for them right now. I work with a gentleman who is Islamic and he is a very nice guy, but this whole or deal has him very worried and scared. These are people too and they deserve our help. I am gla to see that we are going to be trying to help out the refugies through out this conflict. It really doesn't matter if will help to purseude (sp?) them to support us or not it's the right thing to do.

Manike there are Geneva Rules of war governing this fight because if we ignore those rules we are no better than those that we are fighting. War is a terrible and horrible thing, and those rules and guildlines are there so that the impact of war will be as contained as it possiblely can be. We are not monsters, we do not kill for the pleasure of killing, we take prisoners of war and treat them fairly. To do otherwise would make us the monsters they make us out to be. The allied forces will obey the Geneva Convetion even if only to maintain the UN's support.

Pray to what ever God or greater power you worship that is fight is over quickly so that it doesn't spark WW III.

May the Paintball Gods protect our boys while they are way from friends and family.

[manike]

Originally posted by Temo Vryce
You it's a real shame that it has come to this, but you know who I really feel sorry for, other than those who lost someone on Sept 11, are the Islamic people here in Canada and in the US. These people are being shunned and avoided when possible. It is very hard for them right now. I work with a gentleman who is Islamic and he is a very nice guy, but this whole or deal has him very worried and scared. These are people too and they deserve our help. I am gla to see that we are going to be trying to help out the refugies through out this conflict. It really doesn't matter if will help to purseude (sp?) them to support us or not it's the right thing to do.

Very well said, and something we can all do to help this situation is to make sure we DO NOT alienate such people.

When I said this conflict will not be governed by the Geneva Convention I meant the terrorists and extremists, not ourselves, They obviously do not and will not care about the convention. We must not let ourselves stoop to their level.

manike

[cphilip]

Just watching Bin ladens pretaped address. The usual stuff. Only mentioning the wish to remove US troops from islamic nations soil. No mention of his bigger goal to unseat existing Arabic Governments and create a Militant Islamic country and his involvment in terrorism which he views as just means to acheive his goals. Obviously pretaped and predelivered in order to release after the attacks begin. Photo's in broad daylight and its night time over there now. Very much Propaganda continues to come from the Taliban. No damage my behind! You will hear much junk from them now.

Scary stuff but its begun. We have no choice now but to continue until we win. We have to win. The free world, of all religeons, is now at stake.