Final Truth to Why autocockers seem more accurate | And guess what ITS NOT THE ELVES!

[Tron]

^ Your feeding his point if you say everything has to be perfect to be the same. We never shoot in perfect conditions and if a mag has to be in a controlled enviroment to beat a cocker then your just making the cocker look a hell of a lot better. I am going to finally shoot my new cocker tomorrow but I am bringing my mag and keeping it just in case it blows up.

-Tron

[SaS]

this one?
i saved it the last time a saw it
lets see if i can actually post it

he did a test that proved to be faulty in it's process
personal changes to the set up of either system still make up a large room for error on bench tests and on the field

he said one statement that involved ALL mags because no stipulation was made about the modifications done to either of the markers involved... BUT, he's statement IS true for the given conditions... BUT with no supporting information related to the variables for ALL conditions, which is what was claimed

[magman007]

hahaha how about this one sas?

[Havoc_online]

ok guys, we can debate this till the end of time but the point is he obvisously doesnt know what he is doing if he did the test thinking that the velocity setting is the only thing that makes the mag consistent.

he is going on and on simply repeating himself in different ways, he is probably doing this for attention. I made a post in return to his "physics" and "common sense" method of teaching us the error of our ways and all he did was reply with a 1st grade comeback. Then he changed his tactis and started posting on here, this will be my last post in this thread until he argues my post with something worthy of debate.

read his post after mine

http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=49243&pagenumber=2

[magman007]

what havoc, no picture showing Ownage? i think you diserve one! you OWNED HIM!

[Havoc_online]

lol tempting but na, that will probably be his next weapon, from physics to pictures

[SaS]

That's a great one Magman... I almost fell off my chair

OH OH, a simple test

bench test the performance characteristics of a Stock autococker(straight from the factory) up against TKs (can i call you that Mr. Kaye?) Extreme

that would say if all autocockers are better then the all of the mags... because you put the worse cocker up against the best mag(well... it is Mr Kayes after all)


I completly agree with you havoc... no more 3am rants from me... well, i wouldn't want that single statment apply for everything... hint hint **elbo nudge**


but you got to give props to magmans mickey mouse one... OH, i mean tall, big-eared mouse that is in no way related to the Disney company...

[Miscue]

http://www.paintcheck.com/articles/protips/range.cfm

300fps = 300fps = 300fps.

When velocity = 300fps and initial angle is the same... Trajectory is identical.

[magman007]

[SaS]

i said i wouldn't, but i'm posting anyways... but at least it's not another rant

great pic miscue... i always enjoyed physics class... don't remember that picture ever being in the book, but it should of been

[chrisj]

Miscue- That's the funniest thing I have ever seen in a mag-cocker debate.

Chris

[MagMan5446]

DAMN!!!!

I could swear that cool slapping noise my backblock made was the key to the cocker's accuracy....

[Tron]

Re: DAMN!!!!

Originally posted by MagMan5446
I could swear that cool slapping noise my backblock made was the key to the cocker's accuracy....

Na that's just you screwing it in to far so it hits.

-Tron

[EastAl]

really guys, you can argue till your blue in the face about which gun is better. it all comes down to personal preference. some guys like mags, some guys like cockers, some guys like stingrays(i don't know why?).
as for the stingray bench test, it's an entry level gun. it will always be an entry level gun. you can't make it perform like a mag or a cocker.
thats like saying, whats better? a mustang, or a camaro? oh, by the way, we did a test with geo metro. and that tells us that a car, is a car, is a car! it has four wheels, and drives. front wheel drive, rear wheel drive. it's still a fricken car. but, some guy out there has to drive a metro, cause it's a cheap car, and it's all he can afford. another guy bought a mustang, beacuase all his friends drive mustangs. and yet another guy bought a camaro because he liked what he saw on a camaro board!

people choose to have, what they want to have. they like to make up reasons why theirs is better, to justify them getting it in the first place!
i shoot a cocker, beacuse thats what alot of the tourny guys shot, when i was a newbie. it was what i was accustomed to seeing high level players using. i never saw any really nice mags. they just weren't that popular in my area. so i got used to shooting a cocker. when i did finally get to see some nice mags, i was so used to a cocker, i had conditioned myself to not like anything else. it happens. just like there are guys who will never even sit in a mustang, there are guys who are gonna tell you a cocker shoots better. and for some people it does.

personal preference. it's all in the minds eye, what is better for you!

[1stdeadeye]

Arkfear is dead wrong!

My buddies and I took three cars to the track. We had a corvette, BMW M5 and a porche. We ran all three. The corvette lost, therefore it must suck!

Arc-Physics don't lie. 300 FPS-Same Barrel=Same results. If the Mag wasn't set up well, it won't run as well as your tuned and timed cocker.

Arc,
Please take a physics class before you start another one of these pointless threads.

P.S. Take an english class as well!