Regulator for c02??

[FalconGuy016]

If your mag runs on c02, would a regulator be helpful?? And since the vertical adapter is taken by the expansion chamber, can the regulator go somewhere else ? (sorry im a total n00b with regs )

[Sinnet]

the mag already has a reg built into the valve, and adding other regs only decreases performance. What you can do for CO2 other than the x-chamber is: a remote, antisiphon, and an angled bottomline.

[FactsOfLife]

Re: Regulator for c02??

Originally posted by FalconGuy016
If your mag runs on c02, would a regulator be helpful?? And since the vertical adapter is taken by the expansion chamber, can the regulator go somewhere else ? (sorry im a total n00b with regs )

If you're going to run Co2, you need to make sure you cna keep liquid Co2 out of your mag's AIR valve. It will cause pretty good spikes in velocity of it does. Not too mention bad oring stuff and freezing.

So, how to do this. A remote setup with a good expansion chamber will do a pretty good job of insuring no liquid gets to the valve. But, if you lay down to shoot, you now have a syphon tank and liquid loves a syphon.

If you want an on gun bottle, get a Palmer's Stabilizer and an anit-syphon tank. Probably the best way to make sure no liquid reaches the valve.


I've run both, they both have their critics and fans. Me, I prefer an on gun setup and use the Palmers. I turn the pressure from the Palmers all the way up so I get no flow restriction and go to town.

Palmers has some nice setups too. The female stab replaces the bottom line ASA. There's a couple of mounting options as well, a cheaper ring mount that I prefer, and the block mount. The blocks a few more bucks but it's supposed to be more solid. I have no troubles with the ring mount.

Hope this helps.

[potti]

if you are looking to get liquid co2 out of your gun, and shoot consistantly, go for a palmers stabalizer. you need to buy a vertical adapter for your mag, and then the male vertical stabalizer. its the best reg in the business for co2. i think this is a better alternative to getting expansion chambers and remotes and such.

[ShooterJM]

Yeah, I run a palmers sideline stab right now. Works wonders.

[Cristobal]

Yep, Palmer's stabilizer is generally considered to be the reg to use for a top end CO2 setup (although I've heard that the relatively new AKA Sidewinder also works well). In addition to male, sideline and inline versions, they also make a female version that takes the place of the bottomline ASA (and is about $10 cheaper).

Adding an additional regulator to a mag in addition to the one in the valve is not bad at all - in fact that's exactly what you do with any HPA setup which has a reg at the tank to supply a constant output pressure. A CO2 bottle doesn't have such a reg, so the pressure in the line going into the gun can fluctuate significantly during the day as the ambient temperature changes. Adding an secondary regulator like the stabilizer will help keep a constant input pressure to the valve, independent of the pressure changes in the tank. If you have a more consistent input to the valve you'll get better shot consistency -- and better shot-to-shot accuracy.

EDIT: One more very important thing -- make sure you have your secondary regulator set at least 200psi above the mag's internal reg. This gives the internal reg a large enough regulated pressure drop so that it works effectively and doesn't "starve".

[FreshmanBob]

I'm actually experimenting with working without my mag reg and just using the stabilizer (which is a better reg anywho). No problems so far, it's actually let me use the longest spring on my level 10 which is a nice plus.