Cocker vs. Bko

[FeuerFri]

which would be better for the money? a stock vrt. feed cocker or a Bko. i have been looking into a new marker and i am down to choose between these two. i will be running N2 and i wanna get something reliable and would be a good choice of turny marker.

[TRIAD]

I would personally get a 'mag. I've heard of some problems with the BKO's, and I used to own a 'cocker. I'm upgrading to a 'mag. Check in the classifieds or talk to tuna for a good deal. Just my opinion, but a 'mag will beat the 'cocker.

[puckmaster]

The BKO's in my opinion are the biggest waste of money. I have a feeling Brass Eagle helped ICD design this gun.

I live in Boise(mabey 10 miles form the ICD factory)so a few people have them. So far, 3 kids have had them, and all three haven't worked. Two had the reg messed up and the third is just messed up. (He's been to the factory once every week for four weeks.)

[FeuerFri]

i dont want another mag, i had a mini and it just didn't feel right, not sure what it was but i couldn't bring myself to love it. if any one has a better sugguestion while in the same price catagory i'm open to ideas, but i really do not wanna go over 350.

[Ov3rmind]

PREFERENCE
They both do the same thing, however, they do it much differently. I prefer the Cocker for it's sheer upgradeability. The low kick, consistancy, and lack of blowback are also very nice. Very few electros actually please me, and the BKO isn't one of them (if you're going to go electro, it's either Angel, Emag Extreme, or Viking. The cheaper electros just seem to have too low quality or too many things you need to upgrade immediately).

[TRIAD]

If you're going to upgrade a 'cocker, get a freeflow. If you're going to add a barrel and MAYBE a frame, get a stock 2K2 vert. Don't go putting +1K into a stock 'cocker, when for that amount you could have a freeflow, cold fusion, dark, race, sto, black magic, evolution (maybe), etc. 'cocker.

[potti]

i would go for a used stock impulse or bushy. the impulse has somewhat of a sloppy trigger, but thats usually the first thing owners fix. i haven't heard many bad things about bushies.

[TRIAD]

The Impy owners can yell and scream all they want, but I will never buy an impy. It seems no store owners have had much luck with them. And with the bushy thing, save up a bit more and buy an emag.

[mykroft]

A little bit more than save a bit, BKO is $280, E-Mag is $900 or more.

If you've already got HPA or are picking it up at the same time, go BKO, if you are going to run CO2 for a while, go cocker.


I speak from experience, I used to own a Defiant (Bob Long branded Bushmaster) and am on my second cocker, (99RF was my first)

[Link]

BKO

I have to disagree with about all of the people here. I own a new BKO. the first run of them did have some problems. The regulator couldn't handle high input pressures and the microline inside the gun split sometimes. I waited and bought one of the second production runs of BKO's. It works very well off of my PMI preset. I haven't had anyproblems what so ever. In fact, it shoots just like my friend's bushmaster. I love it. I couldn't recommend it more.

[rhetor22]

I would say BKO just because electros triggers are just so sweet.

The cocker is great to upgrade if thats what you are looking for.

But my vote goes to BKO.

[FeuerFri]

i have a n2 tank and everything, all i need a marker and hopper. i would like to not get a used marker eather. i cant spend more than 350 on the actual marker eather, which is kinda why im looking at a cocker, i like the upgradablity of them.

is it true that that Bko is now set up to 14bps? i heard that some where but i am not sure where.

[TRIAD]

If you want to "upgrade" the 'cocker, save up for a better one, not this upgrading stuff. Trust me, a flat-out good 'cocker will be better than an upgraded one. And buying a used emag will not be a problem whatsoever. It just means the valve will be broken-in, which is a good thing.

[Ov3rmind]

Trust me, a flat-out good 'cocker will be better than an upgraded one.

Only if you don't know how to tune a Cocker properly. All Cockers can use the same parts, can be milled, have the bodies drilled, etc. The only reason higher end ones may seem better than upgraded stocks is because a) The shop/company making them knows how to tune them better than an average Cocker owner b) They look really freakin' nice.

If all you can afford now is a stock Cocker, than by all means get one. You can take a Cocker very far with upgrades. If you wan't a Freeflow's performance, then save up for Freeflow internals later. If you want an SFL's performance, save up for Shocktech internals/pneus. The only other thing you need to worry about is tuning your regs, loc titing the sucker up, and timing.

[CpSuPeRkId]

get a stock black impulse for 350. then upgrade. they are the best guns in the world imo. i used to have a mag and wanted an emag xtreme sooo badly but i couldnt wait that long for the money and now i wouldnt trade an impulse for an xtreme. they are extremely reliable, super fast, and with vision cannot chop. however u do need a new aftermarket trigger cuz the stock one is very sloppy. but hey its 30 bucks. and its cool cuz u dont need to buy a new frame to use it. u can upgrade them quite a bit. u can get an lpr like a jackhammer 2 or a rock, so it gets better air efficiency. they have extremely low kick with a delrin bolt and very fun to shoot. i mean they are just fast, wont chop with vision, smooth shooting, consistent, no kick, and very fun to upgrade. after shooting just about every high end gun from AKA guns to ir3s, i still prefer the impulse for its simplicity and design plus what u get for the money u pay.