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  • Arturus
    Registered User
    • Jun 2001
    • 493

    #1

    Another post about how 'mags' suck...

    This again, from a member of PbNation named Richy_C.

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    His 1st post:

    "People alway brag about size, and it's bull, what doesn't hit your guns gunna paste you hopper or tank. Mags are old designs, out dated, and just not as fast as the mor omdern markers."

    His 2nd post:

    "The only reason jax play w/emags is because they are sponsered. And thats not the marker thy use when not playing tourneys, thats where they use their cockers or angels, just like freak factory."

    His 3rd Post - a response to a challange thrown by a poster with an RT Valve:

    "Do i give a **** if your gun recharges faster? no. In all likely hood neither you or i can shoot above 10bps. I used to owna mag, i maitained it perfectly, but it still chopped, coughed, and jumped on the chrono. The cockers come out w/a new version every year."

    Notice the bold print in his 1st and 3rd post? Especially the part where he says Mags just aren't 'fast' as modern markers. Then he goes on to say how he doesn't care if a certain mag recharges faster, since neither of them can ever go above 10bps.

    Smart guy... Maybe he's learning from his own posts.

    His 5th post:

    "My mag broke down because ofnormal use, and i've had my bushy longer, it's yet to even leak. And you think your marker is so high and mighty because of ****ty *** efficiancy, and horrid tolerances? You sir, are a moron."

    You sir, are a moron?

    What a moron.

    I truly hope that as our sport grows, those new to the sport won't be educated by experts such as Richy_C.
    Last edited by Arturus; 10-08-2001, 09:39 PM.
  • AGD
    The man from AGD

    • Oct 2000
    • 5916

    #2
    Hummm...... then I wonder why the HALO is only being tested on AGD products?????? Those HALO guys must be really stupid to use an old outdated gun to show off the capabilities of their brand new premier loading system.......... You know they probably have way better video's of ALL the other guns shooting faster, they must not want to show them right now......

    AGD
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    • PotatoBoy
      Hamburgers should be high

      • Sep 2001
      • 2533

      #3
      You know, I just realized that Tom. Maybe someone should let them know that mags suck, they obviously didn't get the memo.
      Potatoboy!

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      • MajorDamage
        King of Polyester!
        • Dec 2000
        • 3141

        #4
        My gun sucks? Oh man! Now what is unsuck? I bet its cockers...yep they must unsuck cuz they have to remake it every year! That must mean they really unsuck! Thats what im getting!*walks out the door ready to buy an Autococker*

        ENDO!
        Oldskool

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        • Magadeth
          Shamurai Ninja Paintmaster
          • Aug 2001
          • 114

          #5
          That must be the same guy thats over at pbreview.com .
          He's a mod of the mag forum there, lol. he does not post in it much at all anymore though. Halliday and myself answer most of the questions and richy must have realized that he was not needed. He still pops in to bash them every once and a while though. Take it easy on him though, I think he's only 14.

          On a side note, there's a rumor/scare being circulated that rts are being banned. Can you get me some solid links or info to help me squash this stupidity?



          MM12074
          I LIKE SMALL DOGS!

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          • gmag
            Lucid Dreamer
            • Jun 2001
            • 409

            #6
            RT's being banned? Damn, I hope that'a rumor.
            "Men think they think upon great politcal questions, and they do; but they think with their party, not independently; they read its literature, but not that of the other side; they arrive at convictions, but they are drawn from a partial view of the matter in hand and are of no particular value. They swarm with their party, they feel with their party, they are happy in their party's approval; and where the party leads they will follow, whether for right and honor, or through blood and dirt and a mush of mutilated morals."
            ~Mark Twain

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            • MajorDamage
              King of Polyester!
              • Dec 2000
              • 3141

              #7
              AGD already cleared this up. The banning is on the Model 98 Reactive Trigger,because it always functions in "Runaway Mode". RT's are allowed as long as they arnt in "Runaway Mode". Runaway Mode is when the trigger just keeps bouncing off your finger going full auto.

              ENDP!
              Oldskool

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              • Arturus
                Registered User
                • Jun 2001
                • 493

                #8
                Originally posted by Magadeth
                On a side note, there's a rumor/scare being circulated that rts are being banned. Can you get me some solid links or info to help me squash this stupidity?
                Here's a thread that Tom commented on directly, after speaking with Insurance Leader Larry Cossio.



                It isn't a link to an official document or link to one, but I doubt Tom would make up some imaginary conversation he had with Larry Cossio.

                Hope that helps out somewhat.

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                • DRAGONSLAYER
                  Capt Team Dragonslayer
                  • Jul 2001
                  • 224

                  #9
                  WOW! I'm glad my gun sucks. Atleast when you say you have a mag they don't ask which year, or how many aftermarket parts and pieces did you buy. And atleast the mag aint no hopped-up pump gun. Sounds like a toy to me.

                  Keep up the good work,AGD, I'm a life-long loyal customer.
                  :)

                  Maybe Richy_C should learn how to spell.
                  68 Polished Powerfeed CF60857
                  14" Boomstick
                  Dye Chrome 2x Trigger W/Stickies
                  Shocktech Drop
                  48ci Tank W/cozzie

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                  • MajorDamage
                    King of Polyester!
                    • Dec 2000
                    • 3141

                    #10
                    Yeah, I think I'll make something like an Autococker(hopped up pump gun) except make it a hopped up squirt gun! It'll be the Autosupersoaker! It will require lots of three ways, and water...and broken paint....FOR SUPERSOAKING!

                    ENDO!
                    Oldskool

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                    • Nitroduck
                      Registered User
                      • Jan 2001
                      • 726

                      #11
                      I think Richy C got shot up by a Mag too many times...
                      Former stickballmovies guy (They're on youtube now). Now a full-time slumlord in Central Ohio.

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                      • PowerFedMag
                        RT of reliability.
                        • May 2001
                        • 461

                        #12
                        hey

                        stop making fun of richy c! I am sure he's not always a biased dumb dumb!
                        *tee hee*

                        *flys away like a fairy, to defend the rest of the world's dumb dumb's*




                        I own a sucky suckle gun, an Auto-Mag! It keeps breaking balls on ppl!

                        Oh yea, the guns size is more for maneuverablility than not getting gun shots on u.


                        lookin fer IR3 or Xtreme (C&C)

                        black RT Mag for sale. Great condition. Stock barrel, sanded bolt, I-frame, blade trigger. Extra parts, bolt spring, internals o-rings, extra hardline, nubbins, hardline. it doesnt break balls except on ppl. asking $450.

                        AIM SN: Fishsauce66

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                        • User
                          just another member
                          • Nov 2000
                          • 217

                          #13
                          People alway brag about size, and it's bull, what doesn't hit your guns gunna paste you hopper or tank.

                          The cockers come out w/a new version every year.
                          Who said size mattered to everyone in factors of elimination? I became interested in the 'mag family when I saw how compact and small they were.

                          And why must a paintball company come out with a new marker every year? AGD's use of the same system and technology has shown that the Automag is reliable, and proven to be efficient and very fast over many years since it first came out. If the Automag was "outdated, old, and not as fast as newer markers," how come it [the RT valve] is the fastest recharging system with no shootdown up to 26bps? How come no one else has demonstrated extremely high firing speeds without problems in videos? How come the Warp is so innovative and helpful, but shunned as looking ugly or bulky?

                          AGD has the right idea about its products, while other manufacturers create a higher priced model every year that might not offer any performance increases at all. Why does this person think that a newer model necessarily makes a better marker? You could write a book on arguing with people over stuff like this, but the only way you can show them is when they're called out on the field because they got hit a couple times with your "old, outdated, slow-firing" 'mag. Or maybe they can say it was inevitable because they had a problem with their 'cocker.
                          -User

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                          • Arturus
                            Registered User
                            • Jun 2001
                            • 493

                            #14
                            Wonder how Richy_C and Impulse would react to our various threads devoted to the likes of them.

                            Now please, don't get me wrong. I like a good debate, as much as the next person. It just seems as though some people - Richy_C, Impulse, and various others who spread misinformation - never back up a single statement they make.

                            Here are a few:

                            "Mags suck"
                            "You likes Mags? You're gay!?!"
                            "Mags suck !@#!2! Why? caUse they suck on co2 and trigger sucks"

                            One actual qoute of Impulse -

                            "Yeah but just face is mags aren't good guns. They shoot like **** and they chop every 3 balls. U guys know it but u don't want to admit it cause u'll feel stupid."

                            See my point?

                            Another one by Impulse -

                            "But I just wanted to state that I think mags are going down hill. The E-mag was a big save but I thought it would sell more. Normal mags (classics) are going down. Not many new ones are being bought. I don't like mags just for the fact they cost a lot to upgrade and chop alot. Say what u want about me u aren't going to change my opinion."

                            Someone responded by saying that the E-Mag has sold more in it's first year, than any other marker every in it's introduction. Of course Impulse never responded to that, nor any other post that had a good rebuttal.

                            I don't even think that the debates brought up by posters such as these, even have to do with markers. The average users of various markers out there - Mags, cockers and so forth - realize the fact, that in the end it has to do with quality and individual preferences.

                            The ones who start these threads of flames are the same ones, in my opinion, that are in dire 'need' of attention. You know the types; the same ones who can only find security and confidence by bashing on others.

                            :o

                            It may be hard to believe, but I'm not on here to make personal attacks against these people. Just a little disappointing to think that these are the same ones in our sport, educating the new comers.
                            Last edited by Arturus; 10-09-2001, 01:07 PM.

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                            • ben_JD

                              #15
                              Re: Another post about how 'mags' suck...

                              Originally posted by Arturus
                              "...The cockers come out w/a new version every year."[/i]
                              This is one of the best things about the Automag. I bought mine in 1992 (nine years ago for those of you in Rio Linda or on PB Nation) and other than my Intelliframe and HPA, I have done no major over-hauling of the system, yet there are several Angel and Cocker owners at my field of choice who prefer me to be on their team when sides are drawn. If I had bought a Cocker in 1992 (yes, they did exist), the pieces of it would probably still be crowding my workbench.

                              In an industry that has progressed as quickly as this one has, it should be written in neon that a gun nine years old is still VERY competetive and still being sold largely unchanged.

                              Hat's off to Airgun Designs.

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