Need help: Once and for all, which gun?

[paint magnet]

Alright, after going through several guns,(about 8 in one year) and having everything from a cocker to a 98 custom to a PT Xtreme to a Phantom, I have come to the conclusion that out of all the guns I have ever owned, the Phantom and the Impulse were the only ones worth having. I would like to have a semi, though, because I am lazy and I'm still kicking myself for selling that Impulse...

Anyway, money is no longer an option, I'm going to save up and get a gun that will last me for a long time. I'm thinking of going electro.

I've been considering:
SP Impulse
SP Shocker
WDP Angel
ICD Bushmaster series
PPS Blazer
PPS Typhoon
WGP Outkast cocker
WGP Black Magic
Diablo Matrix
and all versions of the above markers

I am open to suggestions, but mags are not really an option.

These are the factors I'm considering:

RELIABILITY- regular maintenance is ok, keeping it clean is not a problem, but I'm tired of all the crap I've been through with my cocker, 98, etc. and want a gun I can rely on

ACCURACY-well according to physics every gun shoots straight but this just isn't true, all of the guns I'm considering are known for their accuracy and range

TRIGGER- mechanical or electro, the trigger either makes or breaks the gun. I like adjustable triggers a lot.

UPGRADES AVAILABLE- because I'm planning on keeping this gun for a while, I would like to add stuff on to it

LESS MOVING PARTS- I'm tired of getting smacked by the block and it has lost it's hypnotizing effect on me. I really like the way the Imp is set up

WARRANTY- Angels are guaranteed for life, Smart Parts has great customer service, etc...

Please help!

[AcemanPB]

Going by all those things you wanted in a gun i would suggest an e-mag but since you don't want a mag I don't know what to say.

I guess i would suggest a "custom" impulse, either a rat or nasty they are both great guns, and I really like impulses.

[paint magnet]

Well, I have shot RTs and a Minimag, never tried an Emag. I don't really know anyone that has one, but the owner of a local field said he hated his because it had so much blowback it was shooting balls back up into the hopper and breaking them.

I might consider an Emag though. Also, I should have listed this before, but please tell why you think I should or should not buy a particular marker. Thanks.

[Kevmaster]

just wondering, why are you asking Mag owners their opinions of the best guns, but wont consider a mag? mags rock man! dont you know that?

[paint magnet]

No offense, but playing with a mag was the reason I don't want one And the reason I'm asking mag owners is because this is one of the best forums I've found.

[cris8762]

Rat Impulse from E-Paintballoutlet!!!!! Lifetime warranty, any setup possible, great looks, great prices!!!

https://www.e-paintballoutlet.com

[Gitaroo Man]

WDP Angel...love mine well mine is dark but you can upgrade enought to make it dark

[Blazingace]

Thank you for the complement of being one of the best Forums on the net. I just have one thing to say about your post though. I consider it a slap in the face of every 'Mag owner here. Look at my sig to see what I shoot. Faster than a cocker, more reliable than any SP gun and cheaper than any angel. My 'Mag just rips. Bushy owners marvel at the speed that I throw paint. If you want solid performance GO 'MAG. If you want hype go with the others. I have never had a blowback problem with my Minimag even when it was bone stock and I was running CO2. With Lvl 10 I have been through almost ten cases of paint and not a single ball chop and maybe a dozen barrel breaks. Maybe just me but that is where I would go.

[paint magnet]

It's not that I beleive all the hype, and I'm not trying to insult mag owners... I honestly did not like the mags I have shot. They just didn't suit my style of play, just didn't feel right. Maybe it was just set up wrong for me; I don't know, but I'm not saying it's not a good gun, I'm just not going to buy one, at least not right now. If I can fix my cocker cheaply, then I probably won't sell it and won't get a new gun. I really like the way it feels, how it looks and how it shoots (when it shoots) and yes, I do believe it is more accurate than an Automag. I was even prejudiced against Autocockers after coming to this forum, and I even shot a mag first, but after shooting a cocker, I really don't think the mag was as accurate or had as flat a trajectory or shot as far. Not to say that it didn't still have good accuracy, just that it wasn't as good. Now, if you don't mind, could we please stop talking about why I don't want a mag?

Like I said before though, if I get my cocker up and running reliably then the only thing I would get would be from the money I get from selling my other guns. (the ones I don't play with, they mostly just sit around)

[cphilip]

Well...you admit you have not tried an emag...so I gotta say at least try it. The person you report having not liked it surely doesn't sound like someone who I would listen too. Think for yourself. Come to SC AO meet I'll let you shoot several of them. I love the trigger on them. Has all the things you say you want.

[Ov3rmind]

Well, I have to agree that the Emag sounds like it suits your requirements, I guess I just don't know what else to say. If you like your Imp, maybe you should look into a Viking (or an Excalibur if you think it's worth the extra money). Bushmasters are also like Imps, however, I feel that the Viking is much, much better.

Also, if you are considering a Cocker and money is not an option, don't even consider a Black Magic or Outkast. Freeflows and Revenge V2s are where it's at.

[joeyjoe367]

RTPRO!

Reliable? Hell yes!
Accuracy? Paint/Barrel, so anygun works.
Adjustable Trigger? If you're tank is adjustable.
Less moving parts? No External Moving parts!
Warranty? AGD. What more can I say?

Sorry if I sound like a nut. I just played my first day with my RT Pro, and i'm RAVING about it

[Puddleglum]

I would suggest:

Bushmaster

Impulse

Matrix

For electronic markers. But also consider AKALMP....Viking, or Excalibur. But you might try an EMag.

[Havoc_online]

I am open to suggestions, but mags are not really an option.

then your suggesting that your not open to suggestion.

RELIABILITY- regular maintenance is ok, keeping it clean is not a problem, but I'm tired of all the crap I've been through with my cocker, 98, etc. and want a gun I can rely on

yet you still have a cocker as an option on your list, did you ever hear anything about mags being reliable? It's true. Very little matainence.

ACCURACY-well according to physics every gun shoots straight but this just isn't true, all of the guns I'm considering are known for their accuracy and range

Yes it is true, it's all paint to barrel match and consistency. If you say these guns are known for thier accuracy and range then you ARE buying into the hype.

TRIGGER- mechanical or electro, the trigger either makes or breaks the gun. I like adjustable triggers a lot.

how about BOTH. Plus, no need to spend more money on parts or trigger jobs, everything you need is right on the marker. Emag, that's all I can say.

UPGRADES AVAILABLE- because I'm planning on keeping this gun for a while, I would like to add stuff on to it

how about the ability to upgrade it to an Extreme.(not yet but soon), besides that and a level 10, there is nothing you would want or need to upgrade. no matter what you could do or how much you can spend on ANY OTHER MARKER, the level 10 Emag will still be capable of shooting faster, softer on paint, be equally if not more reliable, the list goes on. Don't even begin to try and tell me anything else is more accurate or shoot's further, you'll be up way past your bed-time .

LESS MOVING PARTS- I'm tired of getting smacked by the block and it has lost it's hypnotizing effect on me. I really like the way the Imp is set up

yet you are still interested in a cocker, impy's are nice but a warp'd impy, is almost the same hieght as a no-rise Emag with a Halo on it you can't deny that mag's have very tight and low profile's.

WARRANTY- Angels are guaranteed for life, Smart Parts has great customer service, etc...

I'm not going to try and frown on the warrenty of anything else but AGD is WELL known for thier GREAT customer serivce and warrenty.

it had so much blowback it was shooting balls back up into the hopper and breaking them.

don't believe hype talking dealers who don't know what thier doing, funny how the marker works for a lot of ppl on here isnt it? besides with a level 10 bolt, blowback is dramatically reduced along with recoil(a good factor in accuracy) Level 10 mags' now have less kick than anything else out right now.

No offense, but playing with a mag was the reason I don't want one

I don't think it's fair to judge RT's and A.I.R. mag's in general because of a bad experience you had with 2-3 markers. I didnt gather my opinion of cockers or angels by the few I saw that had issues, I waited till I saw enough and used enough for years and years to get my opinion on them.

They just didn't suit my style of play, just didn't feel right. Maybe it was just set up wrong for me

your right, it's one of those, but you yourself have said that you havent shot an Emag. it's very different.

yes, I do believe it is more accurate than an Automag.

just try a level 10 Emag, you can't go wrong, and won't be disapointed, it will be just as accurate if not more(because of less recoil for steady shooting) and give you the same range.

[paint magnet]

Well you've talked me into it. I'll wait until SC AO day and try shooting some Emags and see how I like them. (what I meant by open to suggestions but not really considering mags was that I would consider an Emag or something like that but I wasn't really considering getting one, but I do need to shoot one before I judge)

As of now, it's mostly between:
Impulse
Shocker
E-mag
Viking/Excalibur
Outkast/STO/BM
Blazer
E-Phantom ( )
and a couple others. I don't really want an Angel anymore after shooting one. (ok, it was a '95 Adrenaline but still...)