What gun?

[confedman75]

its the price i just cannot and will not get it.

[TRIAD]

Then get a retro minimag with an intelliframe. Basically the same setup.

[Ov3rmind]

Yeah, you could get a Classic or Mini, then slap some upgrades on it over time. Otherwise, the Bushmaster sounds real good for you. The only problem with it really, would be kick. Of course, there are ways to fix that.

[confedman75]

yeah bushy is bushy a type of autococker?

[Mossman]

Originally posted by confedman75
yeah bushy is bushy a type of autococker?

honestly dude, u post thread after thread after thread. Do some research, choose a gun, enjoy it

Bushy is not an autococker. Bushy is an electro. It has a electronically actuated solenoid.

Cockers are pnuematic. They have flashy parts on the front, and a moving back block. oooh! get one, then talk about it on pbn!

[Ov3rmind]

yeah bushy is bushy a type of autococker?

Um, a Bushy is a Bushmaster. It's nothing like an Autococker.

[Ov3rmind]

Cockers are pnuematic. They have flashy parts on the front, and a moving back block. oooh! get one, then talk about it on pbn!

Not only are Cockers pnuematic, but so is every other paintball gun on the face of this earth! Or you can get a Mag and talk about it on AO! Yay, making fun of guns is easy when you don't use correct facts. Oh yeah, and last time I checked, black pneumatics weren't flashy (especially the ones on the stock 2k2. Ugly brass too).

[Mossman]

I wasnt making fun of anything. People refer to autocockers as pneumatic because a ram controls the loading. I am aware that all markers use gasses to project paintballs.

I was not making fun, again. This guy posts a million threads asking broad questions, gets tons of answers, and doesnt seem to learn from anything. I figure a cocker is a great way to shut him up for a while. At least he'll be in Tech forum trying to get the darned thing to work instead of Paintball talk :)

LOL - sorry for being a jerk, been a long day.

[HoppysMag]

Indian Creek Design's Bushmaster AKA "Bushy"


A WorrGame Products Autococker AKA "Cocker"

[Ov3rmind]

I was not making fun, again. This guy posts a million threads asking broad questions, gets tons of answers, and doesnt seem to learn from anything. I figure a cocker is a great way to shut him up for a while. At least he'll be in Tech forum trying to get the darned thing to work instead of Paintball talk

LOL - sorry for being a jerk, been a long day.

Yeah, I know what you mean, he does need to do some reading up on his guns. The jerk thing is OK, I act like that myself sometimes, you could even tell a little in my last post. It will be fun if he does get a Cocker though, he can hang out on a different forum while trying to get it to fire. I can just see it now, "front block, is that a type of bolt?" Hehehe, sorry, that was a little mean.

People refer to autocockers as pneumatic because a ram controls the loading. I am aware that all markers use gasses to project paintballs.

It's just that the term "pneumatic" isn't really used correctly much in paintball anymore. So I'm feeling the sudden need to correct people now . Nothing personal.

[confedman75]

Sorry im a newbie about cockers so dont flame me for being dumb but what is so unreliable about cockers?

[HoppysMag]

its got many moving parts wich means it has more chances of breaking down and everything has to be right elswise it simply will become a chopping machine ( called timing) a cocker is a pump gun with parts to make it semi, it fires from a closedbolt so you time it to fire when the bolt is completely closed if that timing is off then it could fire while the bolt is open and a paintball is loading hence forth chopin. plus more that i dont know about.

[Ov3rmind]

Well, if you learn how a Cocker works and how to maintain it, they really won't be too bad actually. The reason why they have such a bad rap, is because of how complicated their cocking/firing process is. If you learn how it works, and all the parts involved though, it really isn't a big deal. You can go over to PBNation.com to learn how they work and how you can maintain them. A lot of the bad rap stems from people buying them, then adjusting stuff they shouldn't be adjusting without the proper knowledge, then finding out that they screwed it up. Either that, or they just didn't maintain it properly (maintanence isn't so bad. Just a few drops of oil in the ASA and on the bolt, not too much, but not too little. Then a strandard wipe down you shuold do to all paintball guns after a day of play).

The other issue is timing: These are just adjustments made that allow the gun to fire then cock in the right order. Improper timing can lead to a pleathora of problems. My suggestion would be to have a local airsmith do it first. Watch him and ask questions if you have them. After a few times, you should have it down pretty well. Timing only needs to be done every 6 months-2 years depending on your setup, how much you play, and how much loc tite you poured on the threads . You might also need to do it after certain upgrades.