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  • Phil
    Registered User
    • May 2001
    • 506

    #16
    Barrel 101

    Step bore barrels:
    The propellant accelerates the paintball from zero to the set point (we will call it 300 for s&g). The majority of the acceleration takes place in the tight bore section at the back of the barrel. Partways down the barrel the bore steps up to a larger bore allowing the propellant to escape around the ball and out the front. A very small amount of acceleration takes place after the step as the paintball is still traveling along with the gas as it escapes. It takes more energy to accelerate a paintball from zero to three hundred in five inches than it would take the same paintball to achieve the same velocity in ten inches. You have less time to reach the desired velocity therefore you have to apply more energy. More energy equals more gas making the barrel less gas efficient. I have never owned or shot a Lapco but looking at the pictures you will notice that all of the porting is at the very end of the barrel. The barrel has a longer acceleration distance making the barrel more gas efficient(assuming it is not stepped). This is assuming that you have a good paint to barrel match. Obviously, taking into account all I have just stated, if your bore is larger than your paintball then you will experience poor gas efficiency. Here in lies one of the benefits of the Freak barrel. Yes it is stepped bore (Making it the least efficient barrel design) but you are guarenteed good paint to barrel match and the best possible gas efficiency from a stepped bore barrel.

    Phil

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    • Bulldog
      Registered User
      • Jun 2001
      • 1374

      #17
      I thought a step bore barrel was designed to let the paintball expand a little after the distortion of it's accleration, thereby improving accuracy. I also seem to remember hearing somewhere that any barrel length longer than 4-6 six inches was a waste, but the step bore provides for more accuracy at the cost of gas efficiency for the above reason. I don't know, there's other threads about this, a new one crops up every few months and I thought that was the conclusion of the last one I read, I could be wrong tho.

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      • kevmaster
        Owners Group Div: Director
        • Oct 2001
        • 5475

        #18
        the truth is that nobody has really proven anything. you can come up with theroys for ANY barrel setup and have some bakcing. i have YET to see any hard data proving that "Barrel X" or a certian method is better than another.

        however, ill personally say i love my Lapco barrels. had a freak, hated the thing and sold it

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        • oneshot
          UW-Whitewater Paintball
          • Sep 2001
          • 767

          #19
          wait for the new barrel from poison products, it is going to blow the freak out of the water,
          Team Exotic Elements

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          • big E kingpin
            US Navy Fire Controlman
            • Sep 2002
            • 243

            #20
            do you have any info on this barrel you speak of?



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            z-grip ptp micromag
            ptp f\x sleeper cocker

            my emag hiku

            cockers shoot farther
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            • spazzed
              AOChamp
              • Jun 2001
              • 4461

              #21
              Bulldog, the length you speak of is 8", unported. Anything more than that doesn't do squat for ya.... New barrel? By all means, tell us more.
              I'm way too old for this ****.

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              • oneshot
                UW-Whitewater Paintball
                • Sep 2001
                • 767

                #22
                All I can say right now is that they are going to be out in the next week or two,

                I cant say anything more until I am given an official press release. I will post more when I am given the go ahead from the owner.


                but they are going to be good
                Team Exotic Elements

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                • CoolGSak
                  Registered User
                  • Dec 2001
                  • 114

                  #23
                  Oneshot is correct when he says the Poison Products barrel system will blow the freak out of the water. The store where I work, The Edge Paintball, www.needguns.com will be releasing this system within the month. I don't have an offical press release yet from the owner, but I can give you a little info.

                  The Stainless Steel inserts are polished to .4microns which is equivalent to the mirrors on the Hubble telescope! It is so smooth, that paint literally cannot stick to it. Secondly, the case, unlike the freak case, is able to support a 300lb man standing on it with no damage. If you accidenly step on your freak case, the plastic, and possibly the inserts will be damaged.

                  More to come....

                  Morgan
                  The University of Wisconsin-Whitewater Paintball Team

                  "Bacon is not the only thing cured by hanging from a tree". (English Proverb)
                  "One by one,the penguin slowly steals my sanity".

                  DM4

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                  • big E kingpin
                    US Navy Fire Controlman
                    • Sep 2002
                    • 243

                    #24
                    mmmmmmm sounds lovely, im waiting for more info, is it similar to the freak,in that you can buy different size fronts, and different treaded backs?



                    E-magnum lx warped halob
                    z-grip ptp micromag
                    ptp f\x sleeper cocker

                    my emag hiku

                    cockers shoot farther
                    ouch ouch ouch ok im out
                    damn an other emag

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                    • CoolGSak
                      Registered User
                      • Dec 2001
                      • 114

                      #25
                      Yes, the Posion Products barrel system will be offered in a "full" and a "light" version. The full will have an 8", 12" and 14" tip, back, and 3 SS inserts. The lite will have everything except you only get one tip of your choice. We will also be offering colors too, so you won't be stuck with just black!

                      No idea what retail will be yet, but if you really need more info, call Jason at the store at 608-756-8130 and tell him Morgan sent you.
                      The University of Wisconsin-Whitewater Paintball Team

                      "Bacon is not the only thing cured by hanging from a tree". (English Proverb)
                      "One by one,the penguin slowly steals my sanity".

                      DM4

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