I want to switch to CenterFeed, do I understand this correctly?

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  • damageinc54
    Machinist
    • Oct 2001
    • 1324

    #31
    Originally posted by luke
    What a joke, it doesn't take a ROCKET SCIENTIST to drill a detent hole. In the time it would take him to box up his barrel to send to you, I can have the Mod done.
    The only joke here is you. I never claimed to be a ROCKET SCIENTIST. Look at my title under my name. It says Machinist. By the way I MILL the hole, I do not DRILL the hole. There is a difference, but you are so smart I am sure you already knew that


    What are you mad about? You afraid of losing some chump change? Good Machinists make GOOD money, what's up?
    I am mad that a hack like you is trying to compare precision machining to using a dremel. Knowing how to turn on a dremel does not mean you know a damn thing about how to properly machine a hole. Oh, you were right about one thing. I make over $100,000 a year in my trade. We do make good money.


    I find this type of attitude insulting. You want to make a few bucks off someone that doesn't have the skills to do it their self, that's your right, but you don't have the right to insult me along the way. Perhaps you should grow up a little and practice some humility.
    I really do not care what you find insulting. Custom work costs money. Go out and find a custom shop that will do it for free. Good luck even finding one that will do it anywhere near the price that I do. You want to hack away at barrels with a dremel be my guest. The difference is I do it with precision equipment and carbide tools while you use a dremel. See how many AO members will pay you for that service.
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    • Hoplon
      Registered User
      • Sep 2002
      • 222

      #32
      Can someone draw a diagram of how this is done so i can see what modifications need to be made?

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      • toymyster
        Team OSIRIS
        • Dec 2000
        • 1277

        #33
        Yes, they indded are!!! To my knowlege, the only barrels that work on all H/L, H/R, and Centerfeed mags are the Equation barrel system!!!
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        • billmi
          Tech Editor - WARPIG.com
          • May 2001
          • 810

          #34
          Re: I want to switch to CenterFeed, do I understand this correctly?

          Originally posted by JEDI
          Let me get this straight. I have a hopper left Emag. I'd like to get a center feed body, and with some custom work (paintballmaxx) would like to make it a no rise.
          I find it funny, that when your gun is being worked on by Brad Nestle (the airsmith at PaintballMaxx), an original AGD SuperTech who is well respected for his custom machining work, that folks are suggesting you send your barrels out somewhere else to be milled.

          Take your barrels in with the gun to Brad when he does the rest of the custom work.

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          • cledford
            Registered User
            • Feb 2001
            • 1386

            #35
            Just my $.02...

            Isn't $25 bucks a little steep? I'm not a machinist - but have several friends who are. They don't see it taking much effort to do - especially if some sort of jig (? or what ever they called it) is made up first.

            I'm not trying to knock anyone for making a buck - but we're talking about machining aluminum here (definitely not a tough material) and $25 is anywhere from 25% to over 50% the cost of the entire barrel, which I'll wager has a lot more machining in it

            Not trying to be argumentative - just thought that the price was a bit high...

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            • damageinc54
              Machinist
              • Oct 2001
              • 1324

              #36
              Re: Just my $.02...

              Originally posted by cledford
              Isn't $25 bucks a little steep? I'm not a machinist - but have several friends who are. They don't see it taking much effort to do - especially if some sort of jig (? or what ever they called it) is made up first.

              I'm not trying to knock anyone for making a buck - but we're talking about machining aluminum here (definitely not a tough material) and $25 is anywhere from 25% to over 50% the cost of the entire barrel, which I'll wager has a lot more machining in it

              Not trying to be argumentative - just thought that the price was a bit high...

              -Calvin
              If you have several friends that are Machinist's then have them do it for you for free, since they are friends I am sure they will be more than happy to donate their time, tooling, and machines. Most of the barrels I have modified are stianless steel. Only a few guys have sent me aluminum barrels. Depending on weather the barrel is SS or aluminum I have to use different tooling. There are many costs that go into my work. Tooling, set-up, fixtures, my time, and the insured return shipping to the customer. I even drop my price to 15.00 for each additional barrel I am sent at the same time since it cuts down on my set up time. If you think that my price is too high then find somebody else to do it. Good luck!
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              • cledford
                Registered User
                • Feb 2001
                • 1386

                #37
                Re: Re: Just my $.02...

                Originally posted by damageinc54


                If you have several friends that are Machinist's then have them do it for you for free, since they are friends I am sure they will be more than happy to donate their time, tooling, and machines.

                Most of the barrels I have modified are stianless steel. Only a few guys have sent me aluminum barrels. Depending on weather the barrel is SS or aluminum I have to use different tooling. There are many costs that go into my work. Tooling, set-up, fixtures, my time, and the insured return shipping to the customer. I even drop my price to 15.00 for each additional barrel I am sent at the same time since it cuts down on my set up time. If you think that my price is too high then find somebody else to do it. Good luck!
                Gee, you seem a bit touchy Why don't you tell us what goes into the process? It will help people who don't understand the procedure grasp what they're getting for $25 bucks. I for one aren't convinced that $25 dollars is reasonable if a whole new (stainless) back costs $100 retail. (That's 25% of the total retail price)

                I guess what I'm wondering is $25 a reasonable price for a relatively small amount of work, or is the minimum that you'd do a job for to make it worth your time? (Nothing to be ashamed about there...) How much time does it take anyhow?

                -Calvin
                Last edited by cledford; 11-13-2002, 10:00 PM.
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