Automags can't shoot low velocity?

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    Boo-yaah/Mako Fixer
    • Aug 2001
    • 1529

    #1

    Automags can't shoot low velocity?

    Hey, I went to an indoor field for the first time and we had to keep our guns at 230. I couldn't I tired switching my lvl 10 springs and I could only get it down to 245 and I think it started to get hoter later on, even my other buds had issues, all 3 of us were using mags and the only one with a classic could shoot that low. I am thinking about getting a cocker just for indoor play and keep my main mag for outdoor. What do yall think?
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  • netjunk1e
    Oil my gun? Why???
    • Feb 2001
    • 202

    #2
    With the shortest srping you should be able to get it that low. But 230 is very low. I don;t know why they would have you shoot that low.
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    • Shirow
      www.digitalgunfire.com
      • Aug 2002
      • 2023

      #3
      There's a field here that only allows 240, I don't even go to it..

      The other indoor field allows 260 which is still pretty damn low.
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      • Jack Napier
        Registered User
        • May 2002
        • 149

        #4
        When we had an indoor field it was set at 240. Mags don't like shooting that low. Mine still did, but it didn't like it.
        Wait till they get a load of me.

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        • blnk162

          #5
          its not healthy to shoot below 280

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          • einhander619
            Swollen Member
            • Mar 2002
            • 814

            #6
            I shot at 250 all summer and my RT didn't have any problems at all. In fact, it was when I tried to bring it back up to 280 that I had problems.
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            • FalconGuy016
              Divine Right, Pevs @ AG
              • Aug 2002
              • 6127

              #7
              for indoors 230 isnt THAT low
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              • TRIAD
                Registered User
                • Jun 2002
                • 889

                #8
                The field I played at was a fairly small 3-man, and we chronoed 260. Unless you're playing on a ping pong table, 230 is pretty low.
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                • wepu
                  Registered User
                  • Aug 2002
                  • 18

                  #9
                  Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't cutting half a loop off the end of a normal spring give you the lower range of velocity you're looking for?

                  The problem with shooting at a low chrono speed is that the pressure in the air chamber pushing the bolt forward is too low to overcome the force of the spring pushing it back, so it either doesn't move at all, or doesn't move enough to completely cycle. The level 10 kits come with three different springs to be able to get a particular mag to shoot in a particular range. If the shortest spring has too much force to shoot reliably in the range you want, you need a shorter one. So try cutting a spare one down, and let me know how it works.

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                  • ronron2112
                    Riding hard, Riding RED
                    • Oct 2001
                    • 579

                    #10
                    i shoot 260's and 70's all day, even through the limit is 300.. i doint chop as much with the old bolt

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                    • Troy
                      Registered User
                      • Apr 2002
                      • 246

                      #11
                      Try going to a shorter barrel.
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                      • Trunnion
                        Electric Mayhem
                        • Mar 2001
                        • 237

                        #12
                        i usually shoot my RT Pro and my automag at around 230. the limit for our indoor field is 250, so i figure i've got a good buffer zone for spikes, and with the short fields it doesn't really need to be that high. we've played games with guys shooting 280-300, and even from 3/4 of the distance of the field they've still be able to cause serious pain. the speedball field is pretty small(80ft long altogether, maybe), and alot of the shots are pretty close. i'm surprised to hear that there's a field that has a 300 limit. as far as i know, most masks are only rated to take a 300 fps hit to the lens. what if someone spikes and cracks a mask?
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                        • paint magnet
                          Member # 10,261
                          • Dec 2001
                          • 2488

                          #13
                          Heh, before I put a new regulator on my gun it was shooting 387, then 295, 351, 262...
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                          • netjunk1e
                            Oil my gun? Why???
                            • Feb 2001
                            • 202

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Troy
                            Try going to a shorter barrel.
                            I think you mean longer barrel, A shorter barrel would reduse friction therefore creating a higher velocity for the same regulator setting. A longer barrel would increase friction giving you a lower velocity.
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                            • CenterFire
                              You digg it?
                              • May 2002
                              • 144

                              #15
                              Or maybe he meant a shorter effective length. A 4-inch barrel won't allow the ball to reach full velocity, thus lowering it... possibly to 230

                              You know what we need? A barrel with adjustable porting!

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