gassing up rt pro

**covadsucks** · 10-25-2002, 02:32 PM

That sucks, unfortunately I&I isn't too keen on techsupport for Mag's. PM me and I can take a look at it for you, seeing as how I am in San Jose as well.

**silver0ckt** · 10-25-2002, 02:34 PM

ok i started taking apart the valve/regulator assy. the video shows the regulator seat holder differently from how the rt pro valve is setup i think. i dont know how to remove the regulator seat holder from the valve body. i'll keep fiddling around.

i havent noticed any torn or missing o-rings. i did notice that the outer regulator spring was stuck to the inside diameter of the RT regulator nut. the inner spring fell right out but the outer larger spring was stuck on there pretty good. could this be the cause as to why when i try to gas up the marker, air just leaks out? maybe the spring isnt doing it's job because it's binding against the housing of the regulator nut?

i called tech support but the world cup tournament closed tech support till next week.

any ideas?

should that larger outer spring be allowed to move freely within the regulator nut body?

anthony

**2000Sabre** · 10-25-2002, 02:36 PM

From your post it's difficult to understand where the air is coming from. If it's leaking down the barrel it's most likely a power tube spacer issue. To fix this you need to change the size of the space. AGD sells a spacer kit with all of the sizez if you don't one. If it's coming out the back, it's most likely your velocity is turned up to high. If it's leaking when you hold the trigger, it could be your on/off o-ring. Check out the video as it covers most of these common problems. Also, check out the Tech Section of the forum and do a search and you'll find answers to fix this issue. LOL

**ronron2112** · 10-25-2002, 02:37 PM

there can be a couple of problems...

what kind of tank is it?? that happened to me when i fist got my gun, but i found out the tank didnt have a high-enogh out put

when its leaking, is that tank all the way in? if it is shoot a couple of times

when you mean chamber, do you meanthe valve?

if thr tank doesnt have too much air in it, and you dont have an on/off, when you screw it in it wil lleak anyway because ther isnt enough pressure to cock it

hope i hellped a lil bit.. i just got home from playing so im a lil out of it

EDIT.. WOW i am slow.. when i started this no one had replied..

**magman007** · 10-25-2002, 02:40 PM

the important one is... DID YOU PUT OIL IN IT? if not do that!

**silver0ckt** · 10-25-2002, 02:46 PM

thanks for the responses guys...keep 'em coming.

i checked technical part of the forum but there's like 3 threads there! hah!

it's leaking from where the paintball would enter the "chamber". in other words, i can feel air coming out of the barrel end and out of the opening where the paintballs would enter into the gun chamber (breach?)...the air is not leaking through the macrolines or out the back of the regulator.

the tank is a system x 68/4500 tank...i believe preset at 850 psi. from what i've read, 800-800psi would be sufficient for an RT pro? the shop could only fill up to 3k psi and they charged me 10 dollars each time. it now has about 2500 psi left on the gage since the guy at the shop was fiddling around with it and tried to gas up the marker without success.

i have a system x drop forward with an on/off....the front part of the drop forward can screw forward or back and pushes on the pin on the tank. what i did was, i screwed the air tank all the way forward into the drop forward. then i released the trigger safety and pulled the trigger and held the trigger down. then i started screwing the front part of the drop-forward backwards towards the tank. that's when the air starts hissing and exiting the barrel and the breach.

i think it might be the big regulator spring....it didn't come out easily at all like in the video. it was stuck on there pretty good. could this be it?

**silver0ckt** · 10-25-2002, 02:49 PM

lol yes i put quite a few drops of "autolube" oil by disconnecting the macroline and putting the drops right into the fitting at the valve.

too bad i cant gas up the marker and wreak havoc at the fields tomorrow. =(

so hey, does anybody think it's because of that big regulator spring? should i grind it down so it can float easily within the regulator nut body?

i'm looking at the exploded view parts here

**DaosBeoulve** · 10-25-2002, 03:28 PM

This would probably get more people that could help you fix this problem if it were posted in the tech forum.

If all the orings check out (I don't suppose you have a parts kit and could replace them all, eh?), and you don't have a spacer kit to try that, can you tell if the bolt has moved forward when you gas the gun up? If it has, stick in a squeegie, or some that won't stratch anything up, and push the bolt back. My RTP has only done that to me once, but pushing the bolt back fixed that pretty quick. Keep us informed man.

(edit---oh yeah, my Pure Energy tank is preset to 850 and works great on my Pro. sorry, just noticed that in your post and figured I'd add this in)

**silver0ckt** · 10-25-2002, 03:51 PM

no...i dont have a parts kit or a spacer kit....didnt think i would need new parts (o-rings) for a new marker. im putting everything back together...all o-rings looked fine. the only thing that bothers me is the large regulator counter-wound spring. it does not move freely inside the regulator nut...i'm wondering if this could be it. but i dont wanna grind anything down and void my warranty.

im gonna finish reassembling everything and try gassing up...i'll tie the trigger down to the grip and use one hand to screw the dropforward on and the other hand to push down on a rod to push the bolt back.

keep the responses comin'!

hey moderators, can we move this thread to the tech section if that's more appropiate?

**Tunaman** · 10-25-2002, 04:27 PM

Just stick a squeegee down there and push on the bolt when you gas it up. Mine does this all the time. The tolerances are real tight and it if doesnt get a real sharp burst of air in wont cock. Hope this helps..

**silver0ckt** · 10-25-2002, 04:32 PM

thanks bob...=)

i just put everything back together and i stuck a pen down and pressed against the bolt as i gassed up...now it's holding pressure and i can dry fire the gun! hooray!

and then i came back and just read your post tunaman! lol

anyways, things are dandy now...gonna wreak havoc on some autococker owners from work tomorrow at the fields...wish them luck.

anthony

**riceetr69** · 10-25-2002, 04:40 PM

i noticed you fixed the problem. next time oil it up first and don't hold the trigger down. that can cause for your bolt to stick to the body and freeze up your o rings. pull the trigger and let it go. whatever you do-don't grind anything down it might cause more headaches in the long run. congrats to your new baby!!!!!

**silver0ckt** · 10-25-2002, 04:44 PM

ahhh ok...i thought i had to hold the trigger down as i gassed up. so all i need to do is squeeze the trigger once and let go? i just added more drops of oil to the valve line and i'll pull some dry shots to oil everything up and get things seated properly. i can't wait for tomorrow's games!

thanks for the tip bud!

p.s. how do i post pics in the body of the messages? i have one or two of my setup...

**covadsucks** · 10-25-2002, 06:06 PM

Where are you playing tomorrow?

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