Legal issues of playing pb on public land or a national reserve. What can a cop do??

[ShooterJM]

Originally posted by shartley
"I don't know, how about finding someone who is speeding and writing them a ticket?"
"Sounds like a plan.... after all, we really don't care about the fines, it is the Pissed Off factor we are looking for."
"Good enough.... so when one of us pulls over someone, make sure we call the other so we can BOTH be there. It will double the Pissed Off factor!"
"Sure enough... and don't forget to just sit around talking in our cars for 15 minutes before finally issuing the ticket. LOL"
"Dude! You read my mind!
"Well, let's get to it.. time stands still for noone.."

Yeah... that's how it works.

I dunnoe Sam..... I'm pretty sure this happens every day!

[Tack]

I guess I am one of those jerk cops that would take your markers away if I caught you. Not because it is the law but because every time the police are called to a paintball related call like kids playing in the woods without permission it just hurts the sport even more. Police calls and their resolutions are a matter of public record. Just think how easy it would be for an anti-paintball group to go to city hall and pull up all the paintball-related police calls to strengthen their argument. Would I keep the gear and not give it back? Probably not but I would require your parents, if you are under age, or you personally to come to the police station and pick it up in a few days.

Plus like oldsoldier said, some of our markers look like real guns and if someone sees you playing they will probably call it in as kids with "guns". If I am responding I will already be on red alert and ready for trouble. The last thing any officer wants to face is a accidental shooting because they thought they were being threatened with a real gun. I know of officers who have been in that situation and have lost their nerve and even killed themselves because of the guilt.

Do yourself and the sport a favor. Drive the 50 miles to the nearest field, I do.

Mango, if you need any advice on being a police officer just drop me a line, I would be glad to give you any I have.

[OrangeDude]

ok ok i get the picture guys. Damn i'm convinced the consequences outweigh the benefits sigh reality sucks. . .
Anyways yeah LittleMag you know what i'm talking about right on skyline. Hey pm me your email or aim, or phone #. I usually play at my friendS private land in the santa cruz mountains. I know about 3 private fields up there owned by diff ppl that we know. Yeah paradise is a real ripp off. I actually have a personal hatred for them. I've seen them pull of amazin ripp-offs to ppl i know. Sadly one of them is my little brother who has a mental condition that doesn't make him too bright. He brought in a perfectly working marker into the store against my wishes and paid 10 bux for them to look at it and have them try to tell him that if he buys a new 100+ dye barrel from them the balls will travel farther. This is just one story out of many . . . The only thing i could do is to encourage ppl not to give them business. They are real scum with little respect for people. I even wanted to open my own store in san mateo but i don't have man power. Cuz they the only store here in the damn bay area besides I&I down in San Jose

[shartley]

Originally posted by OrangeDude
ok ok i get the picture guys. Damn i'm convinced the consequences outweigh the benefits sigh reality sucks. . .

LOL You think that just because you made the thread and your question was answered that folks will stop posting? HeeHee This is AO... where threads have minds of their own... no matter how they were born.

Mwahhhh hahhh hahhh hahhhhhhhhh!!!!

[Tron]

Originally posted by shartley
Yes, everyone is dead on (and thanks Mango )... YES your gear CAN be taken (it can also NOT be.. as Mango stated, many things are up to the officer). But the following is NOT accurate and a bit upsetting when I hear folks say things like it:

So.. YOU are the one doing something wrong, and it is the COP that is being a jerk for doing his/her job? And you think they would take your stuff just to piss you off? Come on now. They have FAR more important things to do...... trust me.

Yeah... that's how it works.

Ya actually it does there are jerk cops then there are cool cops. Have you ever gotten pulled over just because you were in a certain car. Pulled over because you are not white. Searched because hey you looked up to no good. I can say this about cops there are like 20 of them in my family and my dad is LAPD. He is one of the cool cops he would see people playing and say hey leave and don't do this again. Unless they were malicious and didn't respect what he had to say. Then they get their gear taken away. Sorry but you're not always right shartley, they would take things just to piss you off I have seen this first hand, and been told about it by other cops.

-Tron

[BajaBoy]

i didnt read everything.. but ide do what i did, their is an old baseball field down the street but now noone uses it but for riding.. and we all asked the cops and they said yes unless something happens. Next year we are opin that field up for the town. Im going to get pix soon. thay are very nice speedball, woods, take over fields..

[shartley]

Originally posted by Tron


Ya actually it does there are jerk cops then there are cool cops. Have you ever gotten pulled over just because you were in a certain car. Pulled over because you are not white. Searched because hey you looked up to no good. I can say this about cops there are like 20 of them in my family and my dad is LAPD. He is one of the cool cops he would see people playing and say hey leave and don't do this again. Unless they were malicious and didn't respect what he had to say. Then they get their gear taken away. Sorry but you're not always right shartley, they would take things just to piss you off I have seen this first hand, and been told about it by other cops.

-Tron

But of course you have.

Look, there is good and bad in EVERY profession, but the things you just brought up have NOTHING to do with Paintball Gear Confiscation... sorry. It has to do with other issues totally unrelated and you bringing them up in this conversation is more than a bit off base.

Oh... And I can say this not because I have Police Officers in my family, but because I WAS one. This is not about me trying to "be right", it is about what "is". The chances of a Police Officer taking anyone's gear JUST to piss them off is so slim it is laughable.... which is what I did in my other post. Think what you like...... you obviously will.

(Note: there is too much paperwork involved in taking things for most Cops to even WANT to take crap just to piss people off..... LOL Most of the time they try to AVOID paperwork.. LOL)

[Tron]

I was there when they took gear away and have heard of several incidents where they did it again. There were also some cops who came to the same outlaw field who did nothing and even talked paintball with them. Who said they had to fill out paperwork if they do something especially if they want to piss you off. Why aren't you a cop anymore by the way? I would like to see you argue between your wife and you. She is automatically right most of the time being a women but then there is you.

-Tron

[shartley]

Originally posted by Tron
I was there when they took gear away and have heard of several incidents where they did it again. There were also some cops who came to the same outlaw field who did nothing and even talked paintball with them. Who said they had to fill out paperwork if they do something especially if they want to piss you off. Why aren't you a cop anymore by the way? I would like to see you argue between your wife and you. She is automatically right most of the time being a women but then there is you.

-Tron

[nastymag]

yo orange ! there is a new store up in chinatown ! from what i haear its not very big but they got good prices on air and paint stuff like that.

hehe i got my own lil speedball field .. eveyr one knows we play there... so its cool.

oh and go to sherwood ! that place is great!

[Tron]

Originally posted by shartley

They did it on purpose the other cops there said just to go home and let everyone keep everything. But one cop said no and took everything.

Who said they had to fill out paperwork? Are you kidding? And you said you had THAT many Police Officers in your family?

Yes everyone fills out paperwork and their are no crooked cops in this world thank god...

I wouldn't guess you would just feel free to change it or not bring it up.

lol fine its not like I said your mamma was so fat or said something bad about your wife. I just want to know who wins arguments in your world.

Just because something seems true to you in your experiences doesn't make it true for everyone else. I have first hand experience in everything we are taking about execept the crooked cops in the family.

[shartley]

Okay, whatever...

One thing I should probably mention though is that just having a response to something is not being right, or actually proving anything. I still fail to see how anything you came back with proves your points. Not even your own words of what happened proved the Cops did it JUST to piss someone off. LOL

Like I said, you can think what you like. It is not like it really matters in the big picture. And our lives go on....

How about this? Peace.

[Tron]

Seriously I was tired of you after these posts but what you just said changed my mind. Peace bro and good talking to you. And lets just say you had to be there those few times.

-Tron

[Spray Painter]

and the shartly vs. tron debate comes to a close...


anyway, i used to play at an remote undeveloped public pack that no one went to. we would go around and ask every single nieghbor if we could play there and they would all say yes. we would start playing and the cops would come and talk to us and we told them that the nieghbors said we could play here. it happened 4 times before some guy that lived down the street came over and told us we couldn't play because of the noise. so we just stopped playing there and found a new place on privet property. so now i either play on the privet property or at paintball jungle or sherwood forest(kind of local fields)i think you should go to sherwood forest because it's cool and you wouldn't have to think about the police getting mad at you and getting your equipment taken away.

[raehl]

Hey Shartly?

What's with all the LOL's? Did an AOL kiddie hijack your login?

- Chris