Letters To and From PMI regarding the "Evil" line of Products

[Fred]

the shirts were on display at world cup, and the pics are in those threads IIRC. They might be on Warpig too.

[hitech]

Originally posted by shartley
...you had better not disrespect me...

SHartley, your grammer is slipping. Sorry, I couldn't help myself.

(For the grammatically challenged, disrespect is not a verb.)

[shartley]

Originally posted by hitech


SHartley, your grammer is slipping. Sorry, I couldn't help myself.

(For the grammatically challenged, disrespect is not a verb.)

HeeHee Some would disagree with you on that...

disrespect

n 1: an expression of lack of respect [syn: discourtesy] 2: a disrespectful mental attitude [ant: respect] 3: a manner that is generally disrespectful and contemptuous [syn: contempt] v 1: show a lack of respect for [ant: respect] 2: have little or no respect for; hold in contempt [syn: disesteem] [ant: respect, respect]

Source: Dictionary.com

[hitech]

I don?t agree with the T-shirts at all, but I did find these funny.

"It also comes standard with a sweet *** black to clear fade, further propelling you to be ulra hip. This barrel also is the most accurate barrel ever and shoots farther as well. Basically it defies all laws of physics."

That one is poking fun at the misconceptions of what a barrel can do.

"The best part is definitely the lens spanning squeegee to precisely remove any spray or what you told the ref was spray."

That is funny. I don't think it condones cheating, I just think it is funny.

"These are heavily padded over the back of the glove and over the knuckles, to carefully protect your hands during a fist fight."

This one is a little too much, but I think that someone reading the web site would understand that they are NOT condoning fist fighting. At least, I think so.

[hitech]

Originally posted by shartley

disrespect

v 1: show a lack of respect for [ant: respect] 2: have little or no respect for; hold in contempt [syn: disesteem] [ant: respect, respect]

Source: Dictionary.com

That's news to me. Now you're going to make me find my "old" dictionary....

Okay, found it. Ih shows "disrepect" as a transitive verb. So, I guess your usage was correct. I have always thought that usage was incorrect. I stand corrected.

[shartley]

Originally posted by hitech


That's news to me. Now you?re going to make me find my "old" dictionary....

Nahhh.... I will just pretend you didn't bring it up.

[big E kingpin]

i wonder what Tom thinks of this

[shartley]

Originally posted by big E kingpin
i wonder what Tom thinks of this

[big E kingpin]

fare enough, i was kinda woondering wwhat a fellow member of the industry would have to say. thats all

[AGD]

Well what do I think about this.....

This is the second time I have seen a major player (the first one was WDP) explode on the scene with what they were absoulutely sure was a winner only to have everyone tilt their heads and say "huh??"

My personal philosophy is that I am now too old and stupid to know what's cool and what isn't. The one thing I DO know is that it's a super fine line between the two. Thats why I live here listening to all of you. Each of you represents my collective brain cells. I don't think many of the big guys in the industry have figured this out yet and are still functioning on what they thought was true years ago. I think this idea was a two second decision that went somthing like this "if they want edgy then we will give it to them"

Personally I didn't like them, didn't understand them and didn't have any idea if you would like it or not. That's why I stuck this to get more feedback. You told me with the billboard that we were right on the edge of going too far or maybe a little over. Since then we haven't done anything like that. I think these companies see the billboard and try to one up it without knowing what's really going on.

Given the unforseen cheating issue it was not the best time to say "refs suck". On the other hand like Mancow says there is no bad publicity. Remember Facefull's first issue with the (almost) nudity? EVERYONE complained about that and what happened? They backed off a little and Facefull was instantly emblazoned in everone's mind and today they are the most respected magazine. Funny isn't it?

If Evil backs off it might be a briliant marketing move since none of you hold a grudge very long. We will have to see.

AGD

[shartley]

Good answer Tom.

[Jonneh]

Being a smelly Limey Brit, I obviously don't know too much about you american chaps, but since when did you start obeying text written on a t-shirt?

To me this just seems like the rehashed 'Video games cause our children to murder grannies' argument. People (on the most part) are clever enough to realise that the above shirts are aimed at the young "Conformist Rebel" who think that breaking the rules, listening to Linkin Park and generally raging against the machine will make them the very essence of cool. I think that if anyone is found taking explicit orders from another persons shirt, we should all just kill ourselves and start over.

Saying "Don't break the rules" is fine, but this is obviously not serious, and if you really beleive that anyone will take this seriously, then I really feel you outta step out of your bubble of unrelenting political correctness and spend some time in the real world.

I couldn't think of a witty method to relevantly include this picture in with my text. You'll have to think of one for yourself

[TastePAINt88]

A letter I sent to that guy

I would like to bring up a concern of mine.
I first started paintballing last Christmas, so its been a year now, I received a Sheridan XTS that has never failed me. Then I purchased a used spyder that has failed me so many times thatI lost count, and have put 10+ plus hours of work into it. Thankfully it works now as I have either modified or replaced all of the parts in it. One of the products I put into it was a PMI Tubro Valve. I have always suggested a PMI Pirahna over a Spyder of any type, even a Spyder Flash against a PMI Bl VF G3, a complete base marker against a well upgraded spyder. I currently run an Automag but hope I enfluenced more Pirahna users. I usually always buy RPS Marbilizer or PMI Premuims, cause I beleive it to be the best paint on the market. I always wanted to be on a succesful team sponsored by PMI but now my opinoin has changed.
The new Evil line comes out.
UGH!
"This barrel will make you a better player" For one, no, no barrel,or any equipment will make any player a better player. It may help with putting well placed balls, but a peice of equipment may only change mental abilities "Now with my new gun I am a better player" and this player may becoem more agressive or fearless, thus making more bunker moves, and a better player, but no, this may appeal to newbies, but not to most people. You may ask if I fall under the newbie category. My skills are not the greatest but I tried to increase my knowledge as much as I could, so with new tips in mind I may be able to increase my skills.
The Evil line of products I beleive has spoiled the PMI reputation, and I am boycotting the purchase or use of Evil products, in hopes to help the companies new products not do so well, and the company to withdraw there product. I know one 14 year old may not make a diferance, but I may try.

These are heavily padded over the back of the glove and over the knuckles, to carefully protect your hands during a fist fight.

These is a direct quote from your sight, along with the better player above mentioned. Dont tell me PMI has come to support fighting when once this was the only paint I would trust through my hopper.

If we want to support paintball to people that hate it, and are unknowedgable to the sport, Evil products should not be carrie through to the public, it will give them the wrong impression of painball

I recently sent a letter to the NYC commissoner concerning the ban in New York, would this person see evil and use it against me? I hope my favorite and most trusted air and paint company will not turn out to be the one thing that does not help the NYC ban go the way it should really go.





I hope this helps out the boycott

[845]

As much as you dont want to admit it wiping is also....

Wiping is not and never will be part of the sport.

[Fred]

Thanks for your input Tom!

TastePAINt88- I am stating that I am not going to use, or purchase anything from the Evil line of products, there is no official boycott of any kind. If you choose for yourself to also not use their products, I find we're in very close agreement.