Letters To and From PMI regarding the "Evil" line of Products

[blnk162]

Originally posted by John Dresser
One of the people I know bought a "Ref's Suck" shirt, besides me, was a parent who wanted to wear it to their other kids soccer games. He thought it was universally funny. He watched his kid play in the world cup for two days and came up to ask me why us refs were even out on the field (and where I found my "Ref's Suck" shirt). He watched paintball at its highest level for two days and did not even know there was cheating in paintball.

Will the average person ever understand a "Cheaters Live Longer" shirt? If you look at it from an outsider's point of view, do they even knw what wiping is? How can it hurt paintball if everyone who even sees the shirt doesn't even know it is for paintball?

Isn't Evil competeing with Shocktech? I don't think an Aftershock player would survive Renick's fury if he found out he was working for the competition.

Hahahaha.....

Dresser no one seems to know who you are here...kinda sad really...

[shartley]

Originally posted by blnk162



Hahahaha.....

Dresser no one seems to know who you are here...kinda sad really...

Sure we do... isn't he...

http://prisonpenpals.org/123358.html

[Fred]

LOL Shartley that's great...

Its too bad that some of the best posts in this thread came so late that everyone has lost any interest...

Oh well.. we still have to do our parts.

Thanks, everyone who posted their opinions,

---Fred

[shartley]

Originally posted by Fred
LOL Shartley that's great...

Its too bad that some of the best posts in this thread came so late that everyone has lost any interest...

Oh well.. we still have to do our parts.

Thanks, everyone who posted their opinions,

---Fred

[John Dresser]

Wow, that's the famous automags.org hospitality.

I played with the last Pro team sponsored by airgun designs.

I played with one of the mythical 10 pre-RT automags that worked like an RT before RT's came out.

I played with one of the very first proto-type e-Mags (as did the rest of my team) and won a national tournament. We actually won with them too, which is something that hasn't been done since with these guns I might add.

Oh yeah, and I own the first RT, serial number 00001.

But I guess I'm not welcome here because I don't have 479 posts about which color warp feed would best match my lava colored Lvl 10 no-rise automag.

[FESTUS33]

Evil Prod's

I've been playing this game for 13 yr's
They're not poking fun just at tourney player's they are poking fun at anybody who play's "OUR" game, And that's never good for anyone. I play tourney ball and I play rec ball and I have never found "ANY" reason to wipe or obscure a mark that I have taken legit.,When you start doing that you degrade what "WE" do for enjoyment. There's an old comment from the racing world that apply's(When it's not any fun anymore I'll stop racing) BEEN THERE DONE THAT.
I'm starting to see the same thing in these type of AD campaign's and I do'nt like being linked to it simply because I'me easily identified as a paintball player.
You have to realize that there are a majority of unimformed
people reading these AD's in a magazine that they have never seen before. I do'nt need the bad press even if you do
Sorry to sound like I'm flaming you I'm not it's just you're post that set me off.

[shartley]

Originally posted by John Dresser
Wow, that's the famous automags.org hospitality.

I played with the last Pro team sponsored by airgun designs.

I played with one of the mythical 10 pre-RT automags that worked like an RT before RT's came out.

I played with one of the very first proto-type e-Mags (as did the rest of my team) and won a national tournament. We actually won with them too, which is something that hasn't been done since with these guns I might add.

Oh yeah, and I own the first RT, serial number 00001.

But I guess I'm not welcome here because I don't have 479 posts about which color warp feed would best match my lava colored Lvl 10 no-rise automag.

[ogre55]

Re: Evil Prod's

Originally posted by FESTUS33

You have to realize that there are a majority of unimformed
people reading these AD's in a magazine that they have never seen before.

Festus: the only thing I don't agree with you on is the above. I think most of the people who read PB mags, of whatever type of stripe, are players. However, that does not take away from your point. Even if one non-player decides not to play because of one of these ads, that's one too many.

John Dresser: As someone who has had a few debates with shartley under my belt, one of which got so involved we moved it to PM, I can say that I would be deeply surprised if what he said was meant to make you feel unwelcome. Come on over to AO. Grab a chair and sit a spell. Have some coffee and enjoy the show.

Ogre

[dansim]

[TRIAD]

Their paint is NOT the best there is. Bought a case of yellow shell/yellow fill, THE most inconsistent paint I have EVER used. Level 10 Automag, some shot, others "jammed" the gun. IE Level 10 wouldn't punch it out. Upon inspection, I was unable to force these balls through the barrel without them breaking. I had to literally hit them with the squeegee from the tip of the barrel (they didn't make it past the detent) to get them out. I will NEVER purchase the stuff again.

[-=Squid=-]

goog god guys...lighten up a bit, nothing is going to happen from the product line! Its not going to make players cheat, or badly promote the sport. All it does (in MY oppinnion) is show that we can be like any other "extreme" sport I.E. skateboarding. It shows that paintball is here, and we dont have to be as carefull as before. Plus, the products are wonderful. Dont flame me, if you dont like MY oppinnion ignore it please.

[Fred]

Originally posted by -=Squid=-
goog god guys...lighten up a bit, nothing is going to happen from the product line! Its not going to make players cheat, or badly promote the sport. All it does (in MY oppinnion) is show that we can be like any other "extreme" sport I.E. skateboarding. It shows that paintball is here, and we dont have to be as carefull as before. Plus, the products are wonderful. Dont flame me, if you dont like MY oppinnion ignore it please.

Gee, and to think I thought that running around shooting people with markers that resemble firarms in some cases wasn't "Extreme" enough...

I think we still need to be very careful about how this sport is viewed.

Examples:

Has paintball been banned in and around my town? Nope.

Can skateboarders ride around in my town? Not on your life. the cops are all over them in a heartbeat.

I'd rather not see paintball banned here.

---Fred

[wimag]

I got your back John.

Shartley i held my lip for a day but your post slighting this individual was totally uncalled for. you should apologize for being such a jerk. Yes that is right, no caps or anything.

Originally posted by John Dresser
Wow, that's the famous automags.org hospitality.

I played with the last Pro team sponsored by airgun designs.

I played with one of the mythical 10 pre-RT automags that worked like an RT before RT's came out.

I played with one of the very first proto-type e-Mags (as did the rest of my team) and won a national tournament. We actually won with them too, which is something that hasn't been done since with these guns I might add.

Oh yeah, and I own the first RT, serial number 00001.

But I guess I'm not welcome here because I don't have 479 posts about which color warp feed would best match my lava colored Lvl 10 no-rise automag.

[agdemagman69]

wow, EVIL has really brought out the evil in us

[shartley]

Originally posted by wimag
I got your back John.

Shartley i held my lip for a day but your post slighting this individual was totally uncalled for. you should apologize for being such a jerk. Yes that is right, no caps or anything.

I am glad you held your lip for a day, maybe you should have held it longer...

Have a nice day.