Which Hi performance tank is best???

[Snewk]

I had a flatline, it's now in the hands of Load SM5. While I had it it was a solid tank, no probs with it. Had the AGD quality just like my mag. If I had the money I would get a 4500psi one, I had a 3000psi. But otherwise flatlines are a good tank in my book, I suggest you check them out!

[Creative Mayhem]

I'm not going to get in the debate over which company is better. I only want to add that, my AA Raptor is and always will be extremely reliable. I have had it for over 10 yrs, I just replaced all the O-rings just for something to do, and I got a smaller tank. I have only had an AA system, have had no problems, therefore haven't needed any other system. If I had to get a new system it would be based on AGD's AIR valve, whether it be the Flatline, or the AA system. This is of course, only my opinion, but I believe that the AA system is great, as I have not needed any other for almost all of my paintball life.

CM

[freek133]

just wondering, but My soon to be 6 year old aa raptor tank is coming up on its second hydro... My friend got a new tank (geddon) and it was so smooth compared to mine... I was wondering if the not so smooth (not from scratches, but kinda like raised up threads.. I cant explain it) finish of my tank is a sign of maybe not making its second hydro?

thanks for the info

[yeahthatsme]

paintballgear.com has 4500psi flatlines on clearance. they look different then the ones i've seen though. and they have aci bottles.

[CpSuPeRkId]

well the new apocalypse 2k is updated. its alot lighter. they took over a pound off according to AA. i also saw the deal for 375 for the 2k. this looks very good to me. now what i really do what performance wise is the flatline 4500. i just do not want a drop. i dont like my gun tall at all. i want my tank to moutn right on the frame like a max flo. i love that feel. and how much are they? arent they 480 on the agd store?? cuz if i remember right thats an insane price. so if somebody can show me where i can get the new style 4500 flatlines(pewter color)with 5 year hydro for less than $400 im sooo in. also a determining factor is if i can mount it right on my frame. i could swear ive seen one with that same mount as a max flo has on it. i saw it on a blue CnC xtreme somewhere here. if i could only get a pic of that again........

[CpSuPeRkId]

http://www.airamerica.com/store/product_info.php?cPath=24&products_id=62&PHPSESSID=2628b695d91885f8da43e82f03ed92db

if thats the rail you are talking about and that will work with flatlines then thats awesome and i will get it. i NEED something thats not any lower than the bottom of the frame but would be nice to move forward a bit. this little piece from AA does that perfectly. sweet. now i just need to find a place where flatline 4500s are available and for under 400.

[i-luv-my-rt]

I think alot of people are forgeting what a good tank really consists of. Everybody on here is saying oo my tank runs good and it has never broke so it must be the best and then it keeps up with somebody shooting 8-10 bps so it must have good air flow. I dont think so.

I think alot of you people posting are second regging your guns so your tank really isnt even being put to use. As long as your tank is higher than your secondary reg it should keep up as long as the tank wasnt horrible and then you would notice that. I run my conquest straight through my beehive/centerflag regs just b/c my conquest is extremely consistent and doesnt get shootdown even on my matrix. I think thats why Max-flows are the best b/c there made to be able to do that. They have extremely fine output tuning and can keep up with any marker.

When i said the AA tanks were outdated i meant that they havent improved there tanks performance except for looks. Shartley you may say thats all some other companies do but alot of those companies are also the leaders of the paintball world.

I never liked my flatline, i could never trust it. It would creep all the time for no reason. Thats why i got rid of it.

To me one tank is better than the other depending on how it works WITHOUT a secondary reg. If it can keep up and give you a consistent marker still than it will get my vote no matter what brand.

[shartley]

Originally posted by i-luv-my-rt
I think alot of people are forgeting what a good tank really consists of. Everybody on here is saying oo my tank runs good and it has never broke so it must be the best and then it keeps up with somebody shooting 8-10 bps so it must have good air flow. I dont think so.

I think alot of you people posting are second regging your guns so your tank really isnt even being put to use. As long as your tank is higher than your secondary reg it should keep up as long as the tank wasnt horrible and then you would notice that. I run my conquest straight through my beehive/centerflag regs just b/c my conquest is extremely consistent and doesnt get shootdown even on my matrix. I think thats why Max-flows are the best b/c there made to be able to do that. They have extremely fine output tuning and can keep up with any marker.

When i said the AA tanks were outdated i meant that they havent improved there tanks performance except for looks. Shartley you may say thats all some other companies do but alot of those companies are also the leaders of the paintball world.

I never liked my flatline, i could never trust it. It would creep all the time for no reason. Thats why i got rid of it.

To me one tank is better than the other depending on how it works WITHOUT a secondary reg. If it can keep up and give you a consistent marker still than it will get my vote no matter what brand.

[c sherer]

Hecks, I have 2 AA Apocalypse 114/3000 tanks I'm looking to sell cheep! 175.00 for one out of hydro and 200 for one in hydro. ( I have 4 tanks and don't need 4, thats why they're for sale so cheap.)

Interested Triad....?

And to make a statement regarding them: OUTSTANDING air systems. Basically an automag valve on a tank. Simple. High flow. fully adjustable. nuff said.

[Hexis]

CpSuPeRkId that's the part. That will give you the same effect of mounting the tank on the bottom of the grip with out any real drop. You can use that part on any dovetail mount tanks (AA Apoc/'geddon, AGD Flatline with dovetail adaptor).

[i-luv-my-rt]

Shartley- How could somebody have hard feelings towards you. Sometimes i try to start arguements with you just so you can pick out every little mistake i make and rip on me about it. I like a good debate, i will prolly like them more when i get better at them
p.s. I let my game make up for my lack of expertice on the forums.

Also, I'll admit that i have a AA geddon in my house. I still havent aired it up though b/c i dont have a need for it. It is also for sale if you want it.

[shartley]

LOL Thanks.

As for the tank.... nah, I am all set at the moment. I will keep you in mind if I run across someone who needs one though.

[Richter]

you seem to leaning towards the apoc 2k. They are good tanks. Air america is a good company even though the rumor has it that Custom Products bought them. If this is true hopefully my life time warranty is still good. I have fred shults signature series Air America raptor serial number 12 on "old ghetto" my non-ball detent autococker. She still works like a charm. I have a 114 3000 Raptor that sits in a box because i have been using my armageddon since i bought it at the world cup in 2000. The armageddon had a 99 bottle on it has now been hydroed. If air america stays the same way they alwasy have been they will keep a life time warranty and stand by it.

This is lifetime warranty is what makes air america worth buying. (In my opinion) Every other tank comes from a company that either doesn't have a life time warranty or used to have life time warranties but changes their warranty policy. That is why i can't even suggest a airgun system.( my opinion I don't want to start a flame but i do feel dissed by airgun changing that policy on automag air valves)

I have had my system go down. Armageddon made a loud pop and started leaking out of a releif hole this year. I sent it to air america and they fixed it and i recieved it back in weeks time. ( two days to ship it there, a day to fix, twos day to get it back) The raptors if not oiled, and cleaned have a tendency to leak especial if thier is sand around. ( dang colorado sand :P ... sorry for the grumble just remember a tourney in CO when it went down)

As for other systems i have seen the trendy people come and go with them. When dynaflows came out and people bought them only to get hot shots on thier markers. A fifty point penalty from a dang air system makes me not like those tanks.

Smart parts regs seam to be some of the most consistent but tend to leak out the front end of the reg. (from the problems that i have seen) Smart Parts regs seem to take some time to take apart. Watch a guy take apart my brother impluse reg to fix it two years ago at chicago nppl. ( it did not take him so long he had 2/3 electirc drills to take it apart) My brother though, has had a problem that same reg spiking on nitorgen but would not spike on co2. He sent it to sp and all they did was change the gauge... (nice huh... they didn't attempt to fix the problem)

The trendy guy received a sonic max attack air system. It seemed to be good for him and never saw and problems with it. This same guy then changed to an angel air (my opinion it's a electro raptor since they don't have an on/off), now he is on the new nitro duck reg. I have never seen these systems in action all that much to tell you their problems. I did see a few airs go down but that was when they came out and poorman was protyping them. I do here that angel airs have flash fill problems but so does the raptor

Even though i am a dedicated air america fan, my new air system is not from air america. I have just purchased a 800 preset PMI 88 stubby. The stubby size is a dream come true for me a a back man; no more long 88 or the 114 i am forced to used for being a backman. The screw-ins seemed to make sense to me. I didn't have to buy a 50 dollar cradel on system that costs twice as much. I just put my ca bottom line screw it in and go. I would have bought an AA melee 4500 but i have not seen one on the web, and I have yet to see an 88 stubby tank from air america.

That is my 2 cents

Shane

[hubadlatimmy]

Air America Armageddon and for several reasons

1. Removable Bottle, this comes in handy mojorly in circumstances when you either blow an o-ring in the reg or anything goes wrong with your tank at all you can just pull the bottle off quick and you have no more gas running into teh gun.

2. EXTREMELY high flow- this thing can keep up with anything on the market without a problem, and knowing the owner of Air America he specifically told me that the flow is much better on the armageddon.

3. The new ones are MUCH lighter than anything they have ever produced and are lighter than the apocolypse 2k.

4. The reg isn't outdated one bit at all. Yes it was designed years ago but you know what look at all the high end tanks the designs are really all rather old, max-flow been around for awhile,, flatline been around for awhile.

5. LIFETIME WARRANTY if anything goes wrong all you have to do is send it in and get them to fix it for FREe. Plus if you buy a parts kit that reg is simpler and easier to master than an automag valve, it's a spring piston a few orings and completely removable with the shake of your hand.

Overall I can't think of any other tank that really even compares to this one in performance, and I do admit I am sorta biast towards others after knowing what it takes to produce every other tank on the market and knowing that Air America has NEVER had a recall on ANY of there products. They test everything and make sure it's 100%. I can't say this about smart parts in the least part. My vote goes to Air America products mainly the Armageddon but make your decision on what you think thats what counts.

ohh and if you want comfy throw a 68/4500 geddon on a shocktech drop and you have one of the nicest tank setup I know of.