great lvl 10 deal!!!

[TheJester]

paintball wizard has them for 80, and in terms of MSRP, i don't know, but if you ask me, no matter what the retailer has to buy them, so AGD is getting the money befor they're even sold, the retailer can sell them for what ever they want, now if they're gonna make a/how much profit or not is up to the retailer

[joeyjoe367]

Well, There's capitalism for ya. I guess it ends up sucking for SOMEONE in the long run.

[Kevmaster]

see the problem is that when big internet stores who buy cockers by the hundred(yes, they buy them in shipments of 100 at a time from WGP) sell items at prices so low the local stores cant comepte, local stores go out of business. when local stores go out of business, fields close....

i have been a long proponent of a Lowest Advertised pricing system, however, to date i know of MacDev and CenterFlag that actually enforce this rule......

[adam shannon]

my take on msrp

From my understanding of how the big grocery stores and the likes of walmart work...they may discount one tiem and advertise it in their flyers, but they make up for it by selling you other items at the same time at a good profit margin. action village may be doing this....they will sell you a marker for sheap....but they get you on the shipping, and pods, packs, goggles, and all the other sundry items. it doesnt work with savvy buyers that just buy the super discount items...but a newbie's mom doing the xmas shopping is gonna break close to even. i try to support my local shop and field...but its hard when you can get everything they have cheaper and on your doorstep in less than a week...especially since my local shop takes months to get items i want to buy in stock. the online shops are killing the local guys...and since most local shops run all the local fields, its sad where the sport for rec players is going. in my area weve lost 3 fields in the last couple months. getting spanked on retail sales couldnt have been good for those shops.

[prodiGyBNTY]

snakestang, you are wrong, sorry! setting minimum prices is call Price Fixing, and has been deemed ILLEGAL in this country. Setting MAXIMUM pricing can be done, but is subject to litigation.

So, if AGD wants to keep it a competitive market, they will sell to ALL retailers/resellers the products at the same price, then it becomes "set your margin and run your risks" kind of market. But if one retailer buys better than another, oh well! They can sell it for less than another buys it for if they wish. It's their loss of margin. In that case, If i bought for more than someone sold for, even another retailer, screw buying from Manu, buy from where it's cheaper, but still dont expect the kind of turnout the other retailer has. If you dont believe me, do a quick search on "Price Fixing"

[warpfeedmod]

I tend to agree with Prod, seems that there's nothing against them selling it for less then the manuf. I've seen plenty of places do this in the past, and not just with paintball stuff, computer parts, etc. It's always done that way. And unfortunately the "little guy" always gets screwed in the end because he/she ends up losing customers to the big "dot coms" who can purchase alot for a little, and sell at a low price.

[prodiGyBNTY]

It's called a free market. Thats why .coms did so well. Low overhead. As far as selling so low and making it up elsewhere, that is a very typical tactic in the open market. Thats called Loss Leading. Lead off a sale with something everyone else wants, at a LOSS, because the add-on sales will make your margin up.

[Kevmaster]

well, if its illegal to set minimum prices on items that dealer can sell at, you might wnt to file a complaint with the FTC and DoJ against CenterFlag and MacDev

[CRog075]

Snake wtf, why you worrying to much that they are selling at a low price? I think people would be happy that its alot cheaper, buy you keep saying its against the rules and like you want it to be full price

[pbmanic]

they are selling them for what, 68 dollers. go to adg and you can buy them for 60 if you trade in your old superbolt. you can buy these bolts for $10 on these forums. so i dont see why you think its so low bc you can get them for almost the exact same price when you add up everything

[snakestang]

Forget I was ever in this post. I have given up all hope of explaining myself.

I do not come here to argue. I come here to help. If I want to argue I will get off my butt and go in the other room with my wife.

[pbmanic]

i understand what your saying. if your refering to me, i dont want to argue. i see the problem of these places selling stuff for so low. it does suck for all those who own small buisnesses.

[Kevmaster]

snake, i understand what you are saying. i am the manager of a PB field...i uderstand DEEPLY what you are compaling about