*sigh* another BS paintball EBay Auction

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  • CRog075
    Registered User
    • Jun 2002
    • 763

    #16
    Notice the idiot with numbers as his name, and neo are both from chicago. So prolly, they both know each other and own black draguns, and think there black dragun can really shoot 20bps-30bps.


    And yes, it prolly is a timmy or some other GOOD gun.

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    • 314159
      Registered User
      • Nov 2001
      • 555

      #17
      yes CRog075, i know nerobro, we bolth don't own black dragons. I own just the frame, and we have thrown it on a couple of blowbacks.

      a blowback was demonstrated at the dounut orgy at shatnerball cycling at 30 cycles a second. shot by tom himself too. here is a pic of me holding the pieces.



      even if i showed you video, i could take video of me firing at 10 bps, lace it with audio of me firing at 30 cycles per second, and you would not notice the difference.
      As society and the problems that face it become more and more complex and machines become more and more intelligent, people will let machines make more of their decisions for them, simply because machine-made decisions will bring better results than man-made ones. Eventually a stage may be reached at which the decisions necessary to keep the system running will be so complex that human beings will be incapable of making them intelligently. At that stage the machines will be in effective control. People won't be able to just turn the machines off, because they will be so dependent on them that turning them off would amount to suicide

      sometimes I just freaking hate people. which means the next day I will love them for the sake of balance, but right now I will just concentrate on the hating. Hate hate hate. Blaaaarg! ;)

      turborev - with ai like this, if it controlled any more than a paddle, it would kill you and everyone you care about. ;)

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      • davidb
        Understandable
        • Jul 2001
        • 555

        #18
        Wow, the accusations and name calling being thrown around in this thread are really sad. If either of you knew anything about nero or pi (you figure it out), you would know that, for one thing, they're definitely not idiots, and for another they are telling the truth (feel free to notice that I am NOT from Chicago, and have never met either of them, although I have read their threads and posts). Calling them stupid only makes you look childish.
        Your head asplode!

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        • xen_100
          super-uber spyder tech
          • Oct 2002
          • 1203

          #19
          I never said I didn't believe them, just that that mp3 clip doesn't prove anything.......I believe a blowback can cycle VERY fast............but a video would be a better way to show it.

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          • 845
            Banned
            • Nov 2001
            • 1809

            #20
            Originally posted by CRog075
            Notice the idiot with numbers as his name, and neo are both from chicago. So prolly, they both know each other and own black draguns, and think there black dragun can really shoot 20bps-30bps.


            And yes, it prolly is a timmy or some other GOOD gun.
            Your stupid is showing.

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            • nerobro
              Registered User
              • Oct 2001
              • 923

              #21
              Originally posted by xen_100
              just that that mp3 clip doesn't prove anything. .but a video would be a better way to show it.
              Well, if you check the analysis of any of the video done here, it's just as blind as the mp3.

              With video at the normal web framerate of 12frames per seccond.... or even excelent video quality at 30frames per seccond. You'll never catch the movement of the bolt, or actually be able to count paint hits on a target. to accurately display something , you need a frame rate 4x the rate of what you are doing. It comes down to that a sound file (though I'll admit pi's sound file sucks.. we've been trying to work on that sound quality) and a photograph of the hits would make the same point.

              CRog075:

              The actually gun in question is a dragun black. yes NOT a black dragun. the dragun blacks became the excelerators. They are fatty striker spyder clones and cycle somewhat slower than draguns.

              the dragun was chosen for the vertical feed. Pi's personal blowback is a pirhana with CCP springs in it. AKA it can't fire more than 250fps. and one more thing.. it's NERObro Not NEO. And that numbers.. is Pi. 3.14159
              To be an AGD supporter, one cannot be an AGD bigot. -Nero

              Truth is a complex thing. One must govern by simplicity. -M. Mercier, special counsel to his Majesty for domestic matters. The Brotherhood of the Wolf

              "You can't outrun Death forever, but you can make the bastard work for it."

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              • Fatjon
                Fat Juggalo
                • Aug 2002
                • 1031

                #22
                I just wanted to let you know that is a good deal because that revy costed him $80.00

                Props to echo419 for the sig

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                • mag-hatter
                  OOOOOOOOO-RAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!
                  • Oct 2002
                  • 1069

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Raptor3359


                  must be some barrel plug that it cost 13 bucks
                  yeah, that barrel plug better have gps, and a dvd player on it! 13 BUCKS!?!
                  MY PRETTY PRETTY FREEFLOW ON EBAY! GET SOME WHILE ITS HOT AND FALLING OUT OF THE COW!

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                  • CRog075
                    Registered User
                    • Jun 2002
                    • 763

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Fatjon
                    I just wanted to let you know that is a good deal because that revy costed him $80.00

                    hahahahaha

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                    • CpSuPeRkId
                      Registered User
                      • May 2002
                      • 390

                      #25
                      CRog075, you need to think before you make dumb threads like this bashing blowback guns because they dont cost 1000 dollars. they can infact shoot at 40+ cps.(cylces per second, because nobody can feed at 40 right now so im not gonna say BPS. and besides at that rate the speed of the balls going into the breach would probably cause the balls to break.lol) actually everything he said was accurate and he wasnt lieing about anything. the price is relaly expensive but still understandable. hes just using good business techniques and trying to sell his marker. no need to go and say stuff about him being a lier. dont be ignorant.
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                      • Thordic
                        AFTICA
                        • May 2001
                        • 5986

                        #26
                        845 had it right, Crog, your stupid is showing :)

                        I was at Shatnerball, I saw the demo, I even fired the gun. It was a Dragun with a custom "board" that Pi made.

                        I think it was hooked up to a Dynaflow, although I think CO2 was used as well, I remember poof clouds.

                        In any case, the gun was definitely cycling at extreme rates of fire. I've seen 20 cps, and this was faster. While I can't verify 30 since there wasn't any equipment, I believe Nero's clip is accurate.

                        Don't start talking about things you don't understand, you only make yourself look bad.

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                        • nerobro
                          Registered User
                          • Oct 2001
                          • 923

                          #27
                          We had a 3k crossfire that couldn't keep up with the flow rate. We used co2 later because a 20oz could handle the rof. And a hyperflow SCREW IN TANK :-) That gun on the hyperflow really gave me new respect for the centerflag tanks.
                          To be an AGD supporter, one cannot be an AGD bigot. -Nero

                          Truth is a complex thing. One must govern by simplicity. -M. Mercier, special counsel to his Majesty for domestic matters. The Brotherhood of the Wolf

                          "You can't outrun Death forever, but you can make the bastard work for it."

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                          • CRog075
                            Registered User
                            • Jun 2002
                            • 763

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Thordic
                            845 had it right, Crog, your stupid is showing :)

                            I

                            Not really, no black dragun stars and stripes, can shoot 30bps or 20bps without chopping.

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                            • Thordic
                              AFTICA
                              • May 2001
                              • 5986

                              #29
                              They could if you fed them fast enough, thats what you don't seem to understand.

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                              • -sCaN-
                                Registered User
                                • Jan 2002
                                • 221

                                #30
                                Originally posted by CRog075



                                Not really, no black dragun stars and stripes, can shoot 30bps or 20bps without chopping.
                                This is a very controversial thread that you started. Different markers obviously have different rates of fire and yes, there was evidence presented in previous posts, and no, there wasnt some guy with a camera taking a picture of every ball and matching it up with the audio. But, when you make a statement like the one above, you are saying thats the way it is and thats not right.

                                Furthermore, when i sell things, i hype them up. I let the potential person know all of the good just like the "ebay guy." i dont see what he did wrong. Im not going to go into depth on this one.

                                I dont see how calling people stupid, etc. resolves things especially when you havent ever read any of their past posts and dont know them personally.

                                Ignorance is bliss.

                                sCaN

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