To double regulate or not to double regulate

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  • NCP-Rockett
    Registered User
    • Dec 2002
    • 13

    #1

    To double regulate or not to double regulate

    Do you think using an inline regulator on a 68/3000 flatline system would do more harm than good?

    Or, vice versa, do you think the flatline system doesn't even need an inline regulator?

    thanks.
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  • ChucktheMAGician
    Back at it
    • Oct 2002
    • 1855

    #2
    Re: To double regulate or not to double regulate

    Originally posted by NCP-Rockett
    Do you think using an inline regulator on a 68/3000 flatline system would do more harm than good?
    thanks.
    Yes. If you did you would actually be triple regging, the flatline reg. the inline, and the AIR or Retro valve. The only way I could see it workin is if you ran the flatline at 1000psi, and the inline around 800psi. That of course would be a waste because you could save some money and just run the flatline at 800psi!:)
    --edit-- I assumed you were running this on a mag!
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    • Nobody077
      Yes Im still alive
      • Oct 2002
      • 559

      #3
      If your using it on a MAG it would be a third reg. 1st-on the flatline ,2nd -the in-line and 3rd- your AIR valve. I think the extra in-line reg would be overkill and only cause airflow restriction
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      • Nobody077
        Yes Im still alive
        • Oct 2002
        • 559

        #4
        LOL posted almost the same thing at the same time
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        • ChucktheMAGician
          Back at it
          • Oct 2002
          • 1855

          #5
          Originally posted by Nobody077
          LOL posted almost the same thing at the same time
          Either AO madness, or great minds think alike, take your pick!
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          • NCP-Rockett
            Registered User
            • Dec 2002
            • 13

            #6
            Errr, sorry, I should have specified

            I was wondering about a cocker.

            thanks for the replies.

            EDIT: and by working better, I mean being more consistant.
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            • OldSchoolMag
              Underpant Stealing Monkey
              • Jul 2001
              • 494

              #7
              On a Cocker, I can't imagine not running an Inline reg, no matter what kinda tank I had.

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              • NCP-Rockett
                Registered User
                • Dec 2002
                • 13

                #8
                Aww, I was looking forward to using one of those new Adrenalin gas-thru grips that they have on the new AIs. What kind of consistancy am I looking at without a 2nd reg? (Stock internals)

                thanks
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                • xmetal2001
                  Junior Member at heart
                  • May 2001
                  • 1994

                  #9
                  You are going to want to double regulate with a flatline and cocker.

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                  • TRIAD
                    Registered User
                    • Jun 2002
                    • 889

                    #10
                    You could get a double-regged tank like the new screw-in pms ones, because the secondary reg then gets 1K psi or so ALL the time, so there's not really any drop-off with less psi. The first reg gets the psi down to like 1K, then the second one takes it from there. I believe this enables you to eliminate most lower tank pressure-related drop off.
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                    • toymyster
                      Team OSIRIS
                      • Dec 2000
                      • 1277

                      #11
                      Remember, on a mag, there is a regulator built into the valve!!! So it already is double regulated!!! With an inline reg you are triple regulating the air, which is really overkill!! And you will probably starve the gun and have shootdown problems!!!
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                      • Shane-O-Mac
                        Registered User
                        • Sep 2002
                        • 1045

                        #12
                        double regging.
                        the reason for double regging is that the primary air systems output will go up a little bit as the tank pressure drops. the secondary reg does also, but it does very little because the tank pressure will go up about 10-30 psi (depending on air system) and the change after it goes through the second reg is 2-5 psi which is acceptable. supposedly max-flows dont need double regging, but i always use a secondary reg to eliminate any air system spikes. but on a mag a second reg is not needed. the AIR valve is your secondary reg.
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                        • NCP-Rockett
                          Registered User
                          • Dec 2002
                          • 13

                          #13
                          Thanks for the info guys, I'll be sure to add a 2nd reg to it now!

                          ..any suggestons? I was thinking about a mac-dev..

                          thanks.
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                          • Aliens-8-MyDad
                            i think im a cool guy...

                            • Oct 2001
                            • 2244

                            #14
                            ive been thinkin of gutting my mag AIR reg and just running a vertical reg made by air america. im wondering has anyone tried this and is it more consistant?
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                            • JEDI
                              We beat pump players
                              • Jan 2002
                              • 1859

                              #15
                              NCP-Rockett, I would get a Sidewinder Reg Made by AKA. I think if you do any research, you'll find they're one of if not the best, most consistent inline reg. They're very simple, and easy to use. They also come in two colors (black & chrome) and three lengths. A very good choice for a Regulator. Here's my cocker with Inline SideWinder and Flatline tank. (Thats a short chrome side winder)

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