Freak all that bad?

[Jack & Coke]

Originally posted by cphilip
...and a center feed mag back too...

Cool!

Did you have to special order that???

I don't see "center feed mag backs" for sale too often.

Also, I just got my "Boomstick" style Freak Front in the mail... (http://www.automags.org/forums/showt...391#post556391)

[TNS2k2]

I wanted one of those fronts.

[toymyster]

I'm in the same boat as Kev, I despised mine!! My old school crown point shot better than my whole set, and I had the nice stainless back and everything!! I could not stand the thin aluminum tubes they called inserts, they just seemed so flimsy to me. And once I broke a ball in the barrel, that was the end of it, untill I took the whole thing apart and cleaned everything!! That turned me off to the whole insert idea untill I had a nice lenghty talk with the Equation guys, everything I hated about the Freak they seemed to have corrected on their set, and I am loving my Equation set!!

[FatMan]

Originally posted by toymyster
I'm in the same boat as Kev, I despised mine!! My old school crown point shot better than my whole set, and I had the nice stainless back and everything!! I could not stand the thin aluminum tubes they called inserts, they just seemed so flimsy to me. And once I broke a ball in the barrel, that was the end of it, untill I took the whole thing apart and cleaned everything!! That turned me off to the whole insert idea untill I had a nice lenghty talk with the Equation guys, everything I hated about the Freak they seemed to have corrected on their set, and I am loving my Equation set!!

Hmmmm, I wonder what went wrong. So, the only thing REALLY wrong with it was you had to take it apart to clean it? I guess I'm not clear on that. Do you mean than somehow when you broke a ball it got up between the insert and the back and you couldn't get it shooting again until you cleaned it?

I find with mine that after a hard day's play there may be a little paint seepage into the back area. That has never affected the barrel's performance - its just been a cleaning issue (I have to make sure to clean it and reapply a little oil).

With yours, was the paint at the breech end or down at the middle of the barrel that it got in there? Was there a lot?

As for the issue of "flimsyness," that really is a subjective issue, and while it may have turned YOU off, it isn't really cause for dissing the product. I thought that the first time I saw one too, but I have since found its not an issue - at least not for me.

I'd be interested to hear more about your experience - I'm curious if it iwas a flawed unit, had a problem like a missing or damaged o-ring, user error, or what.

FatMan

[Jack & Coke]

The Freak has been out for how many years?

How many people have them? My guess is... a lot!

If the Freak's design is indeed flawed and all of the negative comments toymyster mentioned were prevalent, why hasn't this come up more often before? Especially when other insert systems did not exist...

Funny how when a new barrel copy-cat system comes out, all of the sudden the Freak "doesn't work" or is "flawed" or is "flimsy"...

As I said before (in case you did not read): All of the top end barrel systems are very good (i.e. Freak, Equation, Sceptor, CP Kit, etc.)

The topic of this thread is NOT:

"Hey I bought an Equation, my barrel system is better than yours"

it is

"Freak all that bad?"

...and the answer is (IMHO): No, it is NOT ALL THAT BAD.

In a few weeks (after the holidays), I plan on bench testing out some equipment and documenting my comparisons... it should be fun!

[rdb123]

Re: Freak all that bad?

Originally posted by BajaBoy
ok guys.. are freaks all that bad? i just ordered a New SS freak with 14" AA front (whoel kit) for 195. im using a powereed Rt (halo hopper i it maters all that much) and cant forget lvlten.

i thought this barrel would be great

can i return it to paintball gear?

(i would get the J&J edge)

Why? What's wrong with it?

-Ron

[BajaBoy]

rdb, i was readin yesterday that the mag freak cut alot of paint. (where the insert/breech was).. gotta lil scared.

anyway im 100% happy with the freak now thank u all.

(i know between this freak thred and the halo thred i sound like a annoying noobie, sry i just didnt wanna get screwed over with the 300$ i spent)

[toymyster]

Fatman, the only problem was not that I had to take everything apart and clean it; the main problem was that I found the barrel system extremely inaccurate!! As I said before, my shot groups, even off of the bench, were pathetic!! I have used and tested many barrels, and accuracy wise, the Freak ranks in the bottom 5 barrels I have ever shot!!
And Jack & Coke, I never said mine is better than yours, I just said that my Equation set performes much better than my Freak set did!! Since I owned both and tested both off of the bench!!
I have not shot the J&J kit yet, but I am hearing good things about it, and would like to try it and see how it compares!!