Where would be the "best" place to host SPPLAT attack?

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  • SeeK
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    • Sep 2002
    • 464

    #16
    Re: Where would be the "best" place to host SPPLAT attack?

    Originally posted by Tyger
    I'm asking this legitimately, because it'll be fun.

    Where is the best place to host this event?

    The things to consider are location, ability to hold 1500 people or more, lots of "Eye candy" and "intresting field props", and to an extent location.

    I also had a thought about having a "custom field" built for it as well, which wou dbe fun but expensive. Since it's a charity event, building a field JUST for it wouldn't be efficient, let alone easy to do. However, my thought on this is really simple. Rent an indoor dome (Like the Superdome, the Dallas arena, or the like), net it in, and run the game there. I think you could really create an intresting look. Not just airball fields, but some props, purpose built stuff, and I think an arena would be an intresting location, if done correctly. It'd be a paint fling fest, but it would be intresting.

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    -Tyger
    Before this gets out of hand I think we should set some reasonable assumptions:

    It's got to be a big location. PB Blitz is 80-90 acres, PB Sam's in comparison is 200+, CPX was probably 250-300 acres.

    It'll need a lot of parking or a few shuttles to move people and equipment to/from the staging area.

    Staging area for 2000+. We'll need space for players as well as their groupies.
    It needs space for a vendor area/stage, RV stations.

    Food!!!

    Location probably has to be within an hour of a good size city so that hotels should be available. Proximity to air and rail would be nice but it's not like people are going to take a cab to the field so most of them will have rental cars or a ride.

    Past history dealing with large numbers is a must.

    After the air fiasco we'll probably see a bunch of groups bringing their own compressors just in case.

    We can be sure that paint will be nearby. Maybe they'll just invite the paint compaines to bring a semi-trailer and say they have to sell for a certain price. The company can then take back anything they don't sell. It's a big billboard so none of the big companies will want to be left out. Of course this will mean more parking needed.

    Eye candy was nice but terrain will be better. The major forts could actually be built in the week before with about 20 people helping. Maybe the materials could be donated so we'll have big Orange and Blue forts with names painted?

    A dome would be too small for those numbers? How about McCormick Place?

    CPX didn't feel crowded but it's reasonable to expect that the next one will have more people.
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    • Bront
      Boogie Knight
      • Nov 2002
      • 137

      #17
      I'd love to go next year, and would prefer it to be somewhat close. CPX is close, and they're not that bad, but apparently they did a good job of irritating many people. Maybe they'll learn from their mistakes if they were to host it again, or maybe not.

      I've heard Paintball Sams is good for big games, but never been there myself. Haven't been to Fox River Games in years, but they're close to Chicago, and could be good. Paintball Blitz looks to be too small for something like this. Badlandz is where the Chicago Open was held, but it's predominantly speedball, so may not make a great scenerio game field.

      I know there are a few other fields in the area, and the Chicago, Indiana, Wisconson area is pretty central so it may lend itself as a good place too look.
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      • RetroEclipseMan
        AO's Future Game Artist
        • Jun 2002
        • 1386

        #18
        Originally posted by Blazestorm
        I'm not sure... I don't know the owners

        There's STP paintball... splat attack both of those are pretty big... operation paintball... all are quite big...but again... not very big, operation might be able to do a 200 person-300 person, but not as big as this, as well as splat attack, STP... they are more of a sup air type place... and well kc crusaders seemed to me like a place that would be good, the parking lot is quite large and well the staging area could only hold maybe 100 people cramped up, people have the back of their cars too

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        are the only ones that come to mind at the moment... but yah
        It would be cool to have it held in Washington but realistically I don't think that there is a place here that could do a full out scenario game with that many people. Haven't been to K.C.'s yet but I know that Splat-Attack barely has parking for 100 people, and only a couple of the fields at OP are connected. The idea would be cool. Keep a long drive out of the picture. But hey I'm there if it's anywhere on the east coast near a major city that Alaska Airlines flies to. Gotta love being able to fly for free.
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        • aaron_mag
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          • Jul 2002
          • 1375

          #19
          Of course we northwesterners would love to see something in Washington or Oregon but it is not realistic. If it is going to be west coast probably should think California Fields. Go to where the people are...

          Skirmish has awesome facilities and can handle large numbers. You also wouldn't have the air fill problems at Skirmish. There are two problems with Skirmish. The first is the horrendous paint prices. Still hosting something like Shatnerball might be enough to get them to budge on paint prices.

          Second is that it is in the middle of nowhere! Still they are able to attract high numbers for their world record games. Maybe it wouldn't be a problem. I'm not really a fan of their rules (hits below the elbows and knees not counting). Definetely a viable place. If it is held at Skirmish for Shatnerball II, however, the west coast needs to get a shot at Shatnerball III!
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          • Timmee
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            • Apr 2002
            • 1770

            #20
            My vote is for either Skirmish or EMR. Both fields seem to have plenty of big game experience.
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            • Muzikman
              Everything AGD
              • Dec 2000
              • 6229

              #21
              No matter were you go, you are not going to get the location and venue that CPX is. No matter how poor things were, the venue is perfect for this kind of event. Now, are there better fields, sure, EMR is probably the best, but it is in the middle of no were, no real hotel to speak of, and you would have to drive great distances to an airport. Skirmish is also a great field, but again, not many close hotels, sure Philly is not far, but it's also not 45 mins like CPX is to Chicago. As poor of a job as CPX did last year, it is a great location and venue, it can't be beat. Now only if BE would stay out of it, or JJ get signed contracts

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              • Fred
                AO Zealot
                • Feb 2002
                • 2624

                #22
                Re: Re: Where would be the "best" place to host SPPLAT attack?

                Originally posted by SeeK
                Before this gets out of hand I think we should set some reasonable assumptions:

                It's got to be a big location. PB Blitz is 80-90 acres, PB Sam's in comparison is 200+, CPX was probably 250-300 acres.
                I don't know the exact number of acreage, but HSI has handled 2500+ players on the field on more than one occasion... with room to breath on field... plus they are expanding this year (rumors abound...)

                It'll need a lot of parking or a few shuttles to move people and equipment to/from the staging area.
                Big Military style transports... Check!

                Staging area for 2000+. We'll need space for players as well as their groupies.
                Got it!

                It needs space for a vendor area/stage, RV stations.
                They usually have a BIG vendor tent at the MI Monster Game and Tippmann World Challenge.

                Food!!!
                Could pose a problem since Pinkneye is a small town, but Ann Arbor is not far, and AA has TONS of good places to eat.

                Location probably has to be within an hour of a good size city so that hotels should be available. Proximity to air and rail would be nice but it's not like people are going to take a cab to the field so most of them will have rental cars or a ride.
                See Above...

                Past history dealing with large numbers is a must.
                Monster Games, Dollack Scenarios, Tippmann World Challenge, Free For All, Global Conquest... just a few big events held there every year.

                After the air fiasco we'll probably see a bunch of groups bringing their own compressors just in case.
                I don't think fill stations are alowed... but I've never heard of them having trouble with air fills. Having played there for 3 years now, I don't think they would make total FUBAR out of that like CPX did.

                We can be sure that paint will be nearby. Maybe they'll just invite the paint compaines to bring a semi-trailer and say they have to sell for a certain price. The company can then take back anything they don't sell. It's a big billboard so none of the big companies will want to be left out. Of course this will mean more parking needed.
                The store is a 10 minute walk, or 1 minute drive from the main parking lot... and they have a trailer they bring from the store to sell paint out of. I imagine that paint companies would come along as well.

                Eye candy was nice but terrain will be better. The major forts could actually be built in the week before with about 20 people helping. Maybe the materials could be donated so we'll have big Orange and Blue forts with names painted?
                True, HSI is a little light on props, but that can be easily remedied, especially if given plenty of advance notice...

                A dome would be too small for those numbers? How about McCormick Place?
                Now we're talkin, an INDOOR scenario game would be totally sweet, no matter where it is. The Pontiac Silverdome comes to mind...

                CPX didn't feel crowded but it's reasonable to expect that the next one will have more people.
                Right on, with the DVD and TV promotions, word is gonna spread fast, and all the trekkies who didn't make it this year will be out in force to keep Shatner #1 next year.


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                • Tyger
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                  • Oct 2002
                  • 1210

                  #23
                  I've been hearing rumors, but I don't trust any of 'em. But, seems to me that we COULD rent out the Superdome or something, huh? I mean, how cool would THAT be?

                  (Kinda silly, but it crossed my mind...)

                  -Tyger


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                  • AutomagRT1483
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                    • Oct 2002
                    • 2987

                    #24
                    I vote for either PB Sam's or for CPX.

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                    • Gunga
                      Former AGD Factory Tech
                      • May 2001
                      • 1497

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Bront
                      Badlandz is where the Chicago Open was held, but it's predominantly speedball, so may not make a great scenerio game field.
                      Badlandz isn't predominatly speedball. They have 3 Hyperball fields out of about 15-17 fields total...and they have plenty of land that they don't use.

                      Badlandz hasn't hosted any scenario or big games on the scale of Shatnerball, but as you pointed out, they host the Chicago Open, so they can handle large numbers of players. And there weren't any problems with pathetically low air fills like at Shatnerball @ CPX.

                      Badlandz doesn't have any fancy movie setlike fields ala CPX, but then, how common are those? Not very. Badlandz does have 3 forts that could be used as bases. It's also far closer to Chicago than CPX.
                      Last edited by Gunga; 12-16-2002, 01:04 AM.

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                      • ShooterJM
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                        • Feb 2002
                        • 3651

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Tyger
                        I've been hearing rumors, but I don't trust any of 'em. But, seems to me that we COULD rent out the Superdome or something, huh? I mean, how cool would THAT be?

                        (Kinda silly, but it crossed my mind...)

                        -Tyger
                        Well, outdoor I vote for HSI. Indoor would have a very high cool factor though. Not only domes, but you might look into convention centers/stockyards. I know here in Denver the facility is just huge. Also, they're used to having national rodeos, etc so paint can't be much harder to clean up then um...bovine fecal matter. It might be a better/cheaper option. Football stadiums tend to charge more (so I've heard anyway) due to the cost of cleaning/replacing the turf.
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                        • Thordic
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                          • May 2001
                          • 5986

                          #27
                          I have to throw my vote in for Skirmish, and not just because its close.

                          First off, it's the biggest field in the US, possibly the world. It has over 700 acres of fields, according to thier latest brochure.

                          They have TONS of experience with big games / scenario games. They do a full run of games every season.

                          Their reffing is mediocre, I'll admit. Some of their refs aren't the best, but their head refs are pretty good. Anyone who has had the pleasure of witnessing Chaz flip out on some newbie refs know whats I'm talking about I'm not sure if he still works there, but he was the best.

                          As for location, there aren't any hotels within 10 minutes of the field, sure, but there are enough hotels within a reasonable area. Philadelphia and NYC are both within a "reasonable" driving distance. I live about 15 miles from NYC and the drive to Skirmish, while not a quick hop, isn't too bad.

                          Their fields are very cool. It is primarily woods, but its some of the best woods terrain I've played on. Hemlock remains one of my favorite woodsball fields

                          I REALLY don't think Spplat Attack II should A) be held at a field that hasn't dealt with large numbers of players on multiple occassions and B) doesn't have more than 150 acres MINIMUM.

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                          • Tack
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                            • Jan 2001
                            • 476

                            #28
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                            • ogre55
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                              • Jul 2002
                              • 524

                              #29
                              Surprised that no one has yet to mention Paintball Long Island. Within an hour of NYC with all it's advantages. Hotels abound. They have hosted scenerio games before.

                              I am not sure how much eye candy they have on their fields however.

                              And I second Thordic on his observation regarding the ride to Skirmish and EMR. While not short, that are doable.

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                              • PFCKennedy
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                                • Sep 2001
                                • 451

                                #30
                                well, as long as im not deployed, i will go to shatnerball no matter what city its in.
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