5000 psi in 4500psi?

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  • kevmaster
    Owners Group Div: Director
    • Oct 2001
    • 5475

    #16
    yeh, the wire gauges can be off by 2-300psi easy...the oil gauges that the fill stations use(or should use--DONT fill a tank by whats on the on-bottle gauge) are accurate to 25psi

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    • sniper1rfa
      (Not a Wang Force member.)
      • Aug 2001
      • 1107

      #17
      i mean regulate that pressure. to design a 4500 reg for precisely 4500 would be absolutely stupid. we all know things get overfilled once in a while and such.

      they are MARKED for 4500 so you still have that 500 psi safety. its a manufacturer tolerance that i guaruntee is there, simply because whoever designed it would be stupid to do otherwise.


      HOWEVER, filling to 5k would be a bad idea. pushing limits is never good.

      most guages used on paintball guns do, in fact, suck.
      "The Fine Print: Discontinue use if your eyeballs suddenly get way smaller."

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      • kevmaster
        Owners Group Div: Director
        • Oct 2001
        • 5475

        #18
        sorry for the misunderstanding....

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        • MrMag
          Dangeresque
          • Apr 2002
          • 1328

          #19
          the only real difference between the 5000 tanks and the 4500 tanks is a burst disk
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          • raehl
            NCPA President
            • Aug 2001
            • 692

            #20
            Yeah...

            Did a transient 5k fill in a 4500 tank do anything bad? No. Should you do it intentionally? No.

            Higher PSIs mean more wear on your regulator, greater likelihood of a burst disk bursting, and more stretching on the tank, meaning increased liklihood of failing hydro later.

            And as others mentioned, paintball pressure guages, especially high PSI ones, are not terribly accurate. It should have a % accuracy range on the face of the guage.


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            • blnk162

              #21
              Originally posted by halB
              yes, it will damage your tank if you leave it like that for any length of time
              dont listen to this kid, he is a post whore and doesnt play paintball

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              • Conqueror
                PBN Mod Squad
                • Feb 2002
                • 167

                #22
                Originally posted by MrMag
                the only real difference between the 5000 tanks and the 4500 tanks is a burst disk
                False. That's why they're rated to different pressure. They go through entirely different testing processes, and the rating under the fiber wrap is different.

                Tanks won't burst until 20,000 psi or beyond, so that's not the major concern here. The problem is that filling it beyond the rated pressure makes the tank expand beyond the parameters for which it was designed. Doing this once, or twice, or ten times probably won't hurt the tank. However, if you do it repeatedly, the overexpansion will weaken the tank and the chances of failing hydro will increase drastically.

                Besides, that extra 500 psi of air is only worth a couple hundred more shots. If you really need those shots, just buy a bigger tank, and stick to the rated pressure.

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                • Aliens-8-MyDad
                  i think im a cool guy...

                  • Oct 2001
                  • 2244

                  #23
                  this dude at the field acccedetaly filled my tank to 3500 (its a 3k tank) and said it wouldnt hurt it, i was weary but it didnt really do anything so.....
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                  • kevmaster
                    Owners Group Div: Director
                    • Oct 2001
                    • 5475

                    #24
                    exactly, theres a reason only a handful of people have died via paintball: its because we play it safe and by the rules

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                    • petefol
                      Registered User
                      • Mar 2002
                      • 780

                      #25

                      Originally posted by halB
                      yes, it will damage your tank if you leave it like that for any length of time

                      Originally posted by blnk162
                      dont listen to this kid, he is a post whore and doesnt play paintball
                      dont listen to THIS kid, halB is right, 4500 psi tanks are 4500 FOR A REASON. if 4500psi tanks could regularly tolerate 5000psi then they would be 5000psi! it can damage your tank especially if you do leave your tank at 5000psi for an extended time it will definatly stretch the fibers.

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                      • halB
                        Registered User
                        • Sep 2002
                        • 953

                        #26
                        Originally posted by petefol

                        dont listen to THIS kid, halB is right, 4500 psi tanks are 4500 FOR A REASON. if 4500psi tanks could regularly tolerate 5000psi then they would be 5000psi! it can damage your tank especially if you do leave your tank at 5000psi for an extended time it will definatly stretch the fibers.
                        well, sadly he IS right, i dont play paintball. my reffing job doesnt give me time to play paintball, and with car insurance i couldnt afford the paint anyways. but still, i get a hella good view of the game in action, i feel like a football fan getting access to walk around on the field and see whatever he wants.


                        but still,t he point is, if your tank was supposed to be filled to 5k, it would be rated for 5k as some tanks are. my biggest concern isnt it exploding, it aint gonna do that, not for a few more thousand psi, however the big thing is the tank MIGHT stretch while under that excess pressure, and that will cause it to fail its next hydro. i know this has been said a few times already, but it needs to be beaten in. you dont use your equipment for more than it was designed.

                        also, do you REALLY wanna take the chance? just how much of a betting man are you?

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                        • TRIAD
                          Registered User
                          • Jun 2002
                          • 889

                          #27
                          Originally posted by blnk162


                          dont listen to this kid, he is a post whore and doesnt play paintball
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                          • RamboPreacher
                            Player, not a Pro
                            • Oct 2002
                            • 1084

                            #28
                            lots of good points.

                            my note. one word: POP.

                            that said, I wnat to know who or what field you can even have the option of filling a tank beyond it's rated capacity, so I can report it to their insurance company, if they have insurance.

                            Paintball is fun,a nd it's about fun, but SAFETY is formost in mind when having fun.

                            filling a tank to beyond rated capacity is analagous (at least to me) chroneying your marker to 325fps because it can, and saying that the velocity will drop before I use it anyway.
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                            • 56kSomeGuy
                              love my cold steel katana
                              • Feb 2002
                              • 675

                              #29
                              Originally posted by RamboPreacher
                              lots of good points.

                              my note. one word: POP.

                              that said, I wnat to know who or what field you can even have the option of filling a tank beyond it's rated capacity, so I can report it to their insurance company, if they have insurance.

                              Well i play at Orlando paintball and that's where i got it filled.
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                              • kevmaster
                                Owners Group Div: Director
                                • Oct 2001
                                • 5475

                                #30
                                do they do this regularly? like, can you ask them to do it and theyll say sure??!

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