TunaMan's Macro: from a Macroline haters POV:

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  • Kevmaster
    Owners Group Div: Director
    • Oct 2001
    • 5475

    #1

    TunaMan's Macro: from a Macroline haters POV:

    I recently was discussing Macroline with Tunaman and he claimed he had awsome MacroLine. I had always thought that Macroline, and esp the fittings were not good for PB use due to their low pressure ratings. Tuna offered to send me a couple of fittings and some hose to try out. I got the package a couple of days later and looked at the hose: "Parker Parflex 1/4 OD x .062 wall 500 WP..." I though: "oh no! more junk to break. a 500psi working pressure." Well he gave it to me so i may as well test it....

    Heres the test i devised. seeing how i work at a pb field, i have a N2 system. I removed the SS line that we use to fill taks and replaced it with the parker macroline and fittings. I then reattached the female QD to the macro. I own a 4500psi DynaFlow, so i can pump the pressure up to 4500psi. I wanted the hose to hold 1800psi, as that is the burst disk rating on a nitro tank.

    I quickly hooked up the tank and turned the pressure to 500psi-- the working pressure. i have an oil gauge on my sstation, so i am accurate to 1%. I then bumped it to 600psi and let it sit for 1 minute. Then 700. 1 minute. 800. 900. 1000. at around 30 seconds, a small leak started from the fitting on the fill station end. i then at hte end of the min, bumped it to 1050psi. waited a min, bumped to 1100psi. No larger leak, but it was still there. i then bumped it to 1150psi. then 1200psi. the leak started to get larger...but it was still a small hiss(i didnt get my head to close to the fitting for obvious reasons to see just how loud it was). then 1250. after around 45 seconds here the leak got larger. i then bumped it to 1300psi and as it got to aound 1300psi, the fitting blew apart.


    So, conclusions? Im pretty happy with it. 1300psi is surely safe if you are running your tank at good paintball presures, however if the tank were to fail and it were to stop regging the air, you would blow a fitting before the tank's burst disk blew, which is not a good thing. But, i now have some faith in this macro setup, and am now ordering a bunch of this macro from Tunaman to sell at my store.



    thanks for reading, and Macro now has one more supporter...
  • Load SM5
    Scruffy Administrator

    • Oct 2000
    • 6772

    #2
    Good to know. I've been using some of Tuna's Parkerflex for a while and running 900 psi through it for a few mnoths and it's been great.


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    • FalconGuy016
      Divine Right, Pevs @ AG
      • Aug 2002
      • 6127

      #3
      where could I get this?
      Hey
      AIM: FalconGuy016
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      • Load SM5
        Scruffy Administrator

        • Oct 2000
        • 6772

        #4
        PM Tunaman.


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        • spacemanspiff
          A.K.A. (Spacewang)
          • Nov 2001
          • 587

          #5
          Not to knock tunas macro line but I've been using macro line from 32 degresse for 2yrs now with only one small leak and that was cause I didn't cut the hose flat enough. I just think that if you take care of your fittings and hoses and such you wount have any problems.

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          • Blazingace
            ENGINE OF DESTRUCTION
            • Apr 2002
            • 829

            #6
            I have been running Macro on my guns for a while. I have never had a problem with it. When I first got my Flatline tank I set it for about 900 PSI. The reg. eventually crept up to around 1000 PSI. (Wow the Retro was sure reactive) But I never had a problem with leaks. The fittings need a bit of maintenance sometimes but not too bad. Stainless is alot more forgiving and kind of makes you a little lazy since you set it and forget it.

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            • kevmaster
              Owners Group Div: Director
              • Oct 2001
              • 5475

              #7
              yeh, PM Tunaman. I WILL be selling it, but Tuna has asked me to not sell it here on AO since i buy it from him, which i will be doing. PM Tuna....

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              • GeoffreyInNJ
                Registered User
                • Oct 2002
                • 137

                #8
                Um, I'm confused about something. Now I'm not a physcis or a math major but something doesn't make sense about the original post here. If you have a 4500psi tank, and an 1800psi wouldn't the burst disk blow when you got the tank just about 1/3 filled? I would think the burst disk on a 4500psi tank would be rated at atleast 5000psi. The busrt disk on a CO2 bottle I could see being rated at 1800psi though. Is my logic wrong? Thanks
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                • Tunaman
                  Specialized AGD Tech

                  • Dec 2000
                  • 8643

                  #9
                  We are talking about tank OUTPUT. If the regulator were to fail on the output side, the burst disc should blow before the line...which it is supposed to do.
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                  • steveg
                    Member
                    • May 2001
                    • 460

                    #10
                    Hey Tuna have you tried Camozzi fittings (or perhaps thats
                    what you are allready selling)
                    nicely made, nickle plated brass came with my matrix
                    have a set on my mag now as well.

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                    • Vegeta
                      Moderator? Mob Boss.
                      • Oct 2001
                      • 1050

                      #11
                      I used Tuna's marco once..... with co2. :)
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                      • FalconGuy016
                        Divine Right, Pevs @ AG
                        • Aug 2002
                        • 6127

                        #12
                        If the line blew before the burst disc, and assuming the regulator failed, could the regulator blow up if the pressure wasnt relieved fast enough by the macro blowing up?
                        Hey
                        AIM: FalconGuy016
                        BANG!!!

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                        • TheBigRaguPB4L
                          Proud Loser!
                          • May 2001
                          • 1639

                          #13
                          Yeah i thought it a little unusual about them running tests and being worried about blowing the fiting. I was running my Retromag on macro for about a year at a 950 output on my tank. I never had any leaks or blew the line. Of course i have stainless on most of my mags now but that's besides the point.
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                          • kevmaster
                            Owners Group Div: Director
                            • Oct 2001
                            • 5475

                            #14
                            falcon, most all reg bodys are able to withstand 10k psi+

                            if the macro can not blow the air fast enough the burst disk will blow. if the burst disk doesnt blow, you will get what isnt vented by the Macro pumped into your gun. i know for a fact that high of pressure isnt GOOD for a marker, but i also know that it can HOLD a full 4500psi

                            however, when the macro blows, the air will take the easiest path to leave the system...in this case the hole, meaning very little pressure will be going into the gun

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                            • Jonno06
                              AKA Jon-no wang
                              • Jan 2002
                              • 4392

                              #15
                              I have macroline on my cocker..

                              and im not sure what pressure i am running into it(i just got it like 2 weeks ago)


                              (actually,i havent even played with my cocker yet,and i have to wait til AFTER christmas...grr..im gonna go insane!)

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