weight-saving mod?

[Schnitzel]

as some of you may know, a warped E-mag can weigh quite a bit. i'm not saying i cant handle one, but it does make it easier to manuever with a lighter marker. heck, a warped anything adds more weight, but a warped ULE is certainly lighter than a stock warped emag.

anyways, back to the piont. i have seen a lot of mods on this bboard, and i have come to see/hear a bit more about weight lately. it may just be me noticing it bacuse of the fact that i'm so concerned with it.

not once have i heard of anybody saying anything about the warp plate. i know it's aluminum, but i see a place where weight can be saved. think it's a good idea? when i originally thought of it, i was just going to draw one giant slot, but then i realized the stresses exerted on the plate, so i kept some of it's structural integrity. any suggestions? sorry about the 5 min Paint job...

[Havoc_online]

If you were to cut the wieght of the warp plate by cutting holes into it, it would not be able to transfer vibrations as well as a soild plate. It may impair the ability to run your warp of the vib. sensor.

[Gitaroo Man]

then you could intelli feed it

[Schnitzel]

i have it linked.

[nerobro]

Taht would do some bad things to the structural integrity of the mount plate... there's a lot of weight on that plate..

The better place to save weight weould be on the warp itself. It's weight comes from tom over... well properly engineering the peice so no paintball could dream of hurting it.

Now if weights your concern... attacking that shell on the warp would save you a LOT of weight. Put a fabric cover over the open holes... and that will even keep out the paint that hits it. You can clear out MOST of the plastic.

Hmm.... so long as tournaments wouldn't call it padding.. you could get away with gutting the shell of the revvy/halo, especially on the side shielded by the gun. (you could even increse the size of the hopper a little that way..)

[petefol]

get a slug body and xvalve when it comes out.

[nerobro]

I can't imagine the slug being lighter than a normal e-mag body.. seeing that it's 1/4 inch thinck. and aluminum is only on the order of 1/2 the weight of steel. so that reccomendation isn't going to help much....

As for the xvalve... for the moment, purchasing an xvalve without an extreme is imposiable.... again something that really can't be done.

And what if the gun in question isn't a necessarily an e-mag? did you know a large percentage of the warps spend their lives on angels? (and many other guns.. check out paintchecks matrix if you need another example) The guys idea is solid.. but if I were to cut up the bracket.. I'd make a new one with welded endplates on it or something.. a structurally better design. (though from a production standpoint financially imposiable) I dunno.. for stuff to be done at home... Well break out the dremmel, the cutting disks, and the sewing machine and hack up your hopper and warp.

[TheJester]

i wouldn't bother cutting it, i the plate itself doesn't weigh that much, you'll end up saving like an oz or 2, is that really saving weight? you're better off just putting 2 less paintballs in your hopper in that case, i think if you're gonna cut weight, cut it in the warp itself, not the plate. but how balanced is your gun? i know mine weighs close to 15-20 lbs fully loaded, no joke, just have i have some trouble holding it out at arms length steadly w/ 1 hand, but it's balanced right on the frame, so it doesn't feel as heavy, so you may want to play w/ drop forward options to make it more balanced, cause just for example, which seems heavier, handing a baseball bat out form it's end, or handing it out holding it in the center?, so weight may not be your issue, balance may, but just a suggestion

[nerobro]

... I didn't have a 12lb gun when I had a pvi maxflow, ss barrel, and a loaded revvy on top of the gun. (not to mention an all brass front end and a stab on there too) What the heck is on that gun to get it to 20lbs? (or might I suggest you go weigh it...)

[RobAGD]

Just a note :

Emag / warp Halo full of paint with Flatline 68/4500, PMI Barrel, Drop and Flatline sleeve = 10.5lbs

-Robert

[magnj]

lol 20lbs, what DO you have on there? I havent weighed mine but Im sure its not light

[cphilip]

Sounds about right there Rob. I have a picture here somewhere showing a ULE Faded Emag with warp and revy and a 68/3000, Macroline and fittings, almost a hopper full of paint, a 12 inch Freak barrel on it with 2500 psi of air in the tank weighing in at 9.5 pounds. Sitting on the digital scales where you can see the read out too. 20 pounds? I think not!

[ah137]

Originally posted by nerobro
I can't imagine the slug being lighter than a normal e-mag body.. seeing that it's 1/4 inch thinck. and aluminum is only on the order of 1/2 the weight of steel. so that reccomendation isn't going to help much....

Oh course you would mill it first.

Did you see the specs on the FSE-LX slug body?

""Well I got a chance to weigh the body's
this morning , the result's
1-Black powder coat Warp right=8.5 oz
2-Polished Vert W/NW adapter= 8.0 oz
3-Slug W/NW feed neck and ball detent=4.5 oz
That suprised even me, I did'nt expect
quite that big a difference.

Rick

""
Drop four ounces there and another 3.6 with a ule rail thats quite a bit, even drop a few more with the ule grip.

Later Hills

[Schnitzel]

Sounds about right there Rob. I have a picture here somewhere showing a ULE Faded Emag with warp and revy and a 68/3000, Macroline and fittings, almost a hopper full of paint, a 12 inch Freak barrel on it with 2500 psi of air in the tank weighing in at 9.5 pounds.

just weighed mine...

genuine ULE with stock barrel: 3lbs, 1 oz
without barrel: 2 lbs, 12 oz

ULE with: SS line, fittings, warp +hose, 12V revvy, KAPP DZIII, PMI 68/4500 - 8 lbs, 9 oz

[rikkter]

hm i was wondering, speaking of the warp rail, i noticed the rails on the PTP are a lot thinner then the ones that come with the AGD's. what would happen if AGD made it thinner like the PTPs? only because my screws barely go in the intelliframe, only like 1/8 of an inch is in the gun, which i'm worrying about stripping.
external vibration+DZ3=lot of screwtakage..

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