Tom... Please make us a twist lock adapter for autococker threads...

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  • Ultimator
    ASsDddddddddddF
    • Apr 2002
    • 1389

    #16
    Originally posted by Bunny
    from the link...."Got to try an X-Mag last night. Pretty cool, if I do say so... but why does everyone like those magnetic triggers so much? It felt mushy and inconsistent to me. Perhaps I'm just used to the slight "snap" of a carefully-sprung microswitch..."

    OMG
    OMGOMGOMGOMG let's flip out because he has a different opinion

    Making a mag adpater for cocker barrels would be cool but I doubt Tom would make one. It's sort of like giving up the thread of barrels that he invented? Oh well I wouldn't really wanna do it but maybe it's just me.
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    • rjvemt1
      NITRO-BURNIN' HYPER-MAG
      • Mar 2002
      • 681

      #17
      if it where a sleeve instead of an adapter it could be short enough that the bolt would push the ball past the seam before firing

      remove the twist loc detent, drop the sleeve into the body and use two small screws on either side of the gun to hold it in place.

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      • datapimp69
        Pimp Master Delux
        • Jun 2001
        • 1219

        #18
        if i made some how many would really buy them..

        i mean REALLY buy them...

        if we could get 50 pre ordered i could get them made really cheap.

        i will put a poll to see if there is real interest in this.


        from the judge in the WDP v Sp case.... " i find it significant that aside from a somewhat limited notebook produced by gaston, the four named inventors offer NO documentation of there work or there contributions to the conception or reduction to practice of the claimed invention"

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        • AGD
          The man from AGD

          • Oct 2000
          • 5916

          #19
          We are not considering spending time on this because we are working on aluminum bodies with cocker threads.

          AGD
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          • WARPED1
            I'm a pirate, ARRRRRRRRRR!
            • Nov 2001
            • 7458

            #20
            The twist lock has outlived it's usefulness.Let it die with dignaty.Notice all the new barrel companies won't even make an expensive to produce twist lock(ala Evil's pipes)
            [Something Cool is Here]

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            • Doc Nickel
              Unrepentant Gadget freak

              • Jul 2001
              • 499

              #21
              Okay guys, here's the official story:

              I've received quite a few E-mails about my adapter, I'm guessing 20 to 30. If I missed a reply, I apologize. I get upwards of fifty messages a day, and with my typical chicken-with-it's-head-cut-off schedule and level of organization, occasionally I lose track.

              Anyway, I've made about ten stainless adapters, and two or three aluminum ones for various customers. Problem is, making them on manual machines is somewhat time-consuming, and worse, tends to be inconsistent when I rush things. They take a while to drill and machine from solid 303 bar stock, and so I have to charge accordingly.

              However, I've started nailing down details and financing to have a CNC shop make a short run of them. Best estimates say six weeks, could be two months, depending on shop schedules. This will allow me to cut the price in half, and have better finishes to boot.

              The details: The adapters are, as I said, 303 stainless steel, and a drop-in, no-mods, fully reversible conversion to Autococker threads. (Though I did make one prototype that takes Angel barrels.) The inserts fit all 'Mags that take existing "twist lock" barrels, and, better yet, each adapter fits both left feed, right feed AND centerfeed bodies interchangably. They do not use the 'nubbin', they use a different, proven detent (supplied)- I've blown a case through my red-Splash CF-modded LX 'Mag so far, with no chops, no misfeeds, no wear and no damage.

              As I said, I'm hoping to get these done and in my hot little hands within six weeks. I need to get more details from the shop before I quote any prices, but I expect it to be very affordable.

              Also, I have about four or five stainless blanks that have been drilled, but not cut for threads. They're not long enough for an Angel thread, but if you want another style thread adapter (Shocker and ICD might be a bit tough, as multiple-lead threads are a pain in the patella) like Spyder, Phantom, Tippmann (no, not enough room for a FlatLine adapter) or whatever else you can think of, just drop me a line. Custom ones won't be cheap, but still less than the cost of a new high-end barrel.

              Anyone interested in the production adapters, please feel free to drop me an E-Mail with the phrase "Automag barrel adapter" in the subject line, and I'll start a first-come-first-served list.

              As far as my apparent heresy about the magnetic trigger, please keep in mind the customer had just gotten the gun (an X-Mag) and neither of us had taken any time to fine-tune the trigger. I agree with another Guild poster though, that if the magnets were reversed, so that the force increased with travel rather than decreased, that might feel a little better. Soon's I get an E-Mag or X-Mag to fool with myself, I'll try it.

              Doc.

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              • petefol
                Registered User
                • Mar 2002
                • 780

                #22
                like tom said, why make an adapter when the slug is out. with the slug you also make your gun millable and decrease the weight. if you want to use twist lock then just put your SS body back on.

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                • spantol
                  Turgid Member
                  • Sep 2002
                  • 1024

                  #23
                  Doc: You've got mail.

                  Petefol: The problem is that the slugs aren't out, or at least aren't available in a manner that's useful to me. When finished slug bodies are available, I'll be among the first in line to pick one up. Until then, though, I'd love to be able to use my cocker barrels on my mags. Clearly, I'm not alone there.

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                  • snakestang
                    Team Crime Scene
                    • Aug 2001
                    • 693

                    #24
                    One question. Does the new cocker threaded barrel go all the way back to the drop point. In other words, when the paint rolls into the adapter how far must it travel to get to the cocker barrel? Or is it a seamless entry from Mag hole to Cocker barrel.

                    Only reason I ask is because if there is a small distance to travel and say the distance that needs to be covered is .689 then using anything other then a .689 barrel will be ineffective. Does this make sense?

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                    • Lee
                      Team Trigger Happy
                      • Nov 2002
                      • 2395

                      #25
                      Tom...there seems to be a market for this item.

                      not everyone wants a slug body or as the means to machine it and an adapter might fit into peoples budgets better too. i know it will mine.

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                      • warpfeedmod
                        I came, I saw, I painted.
                        • Jun 2001
                        • 1265

                        #26
                        Originally posted by WARPED1
                        The twist lock has outlived it's usefulness.Let it die with dignaty.Notice all the new barrel companies won't even make an expensive to produce twist lock(ala Evil's pipes)

                        NOOOO! The Twistloc will never die!


                        Twist-loc 4-evah!

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                        • Jonesie
                          All Around Good Guy
                          • Oct 2002
                          • 1123

                          #27
                          Originally posted by AGD
                          We are not considering spending time on this because we are working on aluminum bodies with cocker threads.

                          AGD
                          Perhaps AGD could strike a deal with Doc and put a limited number in the Online Store. That would make them a lot more accessible by the general Automag public with minimal effort on AGD parts.

                          Later ~ Jonesie
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                          • JEDI
                            We beat pump players
                            • Jan 2002
                            • 1859

                            #28
                            Ha Ha! I knew twist lock was on the way out! Where were all you guys when I said I hated it, and got flamed by all those twist lock monkeys?
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                            • digitard
                              DigiWang .. Special Ed
                              • Nov 2002
                              • 1678

                              #29
                              Tom,
                              Correct me if I'm wrong, your saying that your making new bodies (like for standard mags/rt's/etc) that can be purchased and put on w/ cocker threads correct?

                              That would be cool ... to be able to replace my old skool twist lock P/L body w/ a warp feed left cocker threaded body.

                              Sincerely,
                              Dave K
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                              • Evil Bob
                                Evil Overlord
                                • Jul 2001
                                • 1217

                                #30
                                Yes, the slug bodies are all Autococker thread natives, no more twist lock for the barrel.

                                -Evil Bob

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