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  • Matrix or RT
    Matrix or RT Pro!?!?
    • Dec 2002
    • 63

    #1

    RT pro not tourny legal

    well i thought they were outlawed in tournies then heard they werent ne more now i hear they are..well are RT pros still outlawed in tournies?>
    cant choose between matrix or RT pro with lvl 10..
  • Load SM5
    Scruffy Administrator

    • Oct 2000
    • 6772

    #2
    They have always been legal. If a local tourney won't let you use one that's just their rule.


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    • FutureMagOwner
      Registered User
      • Dec 2001
      • 3354

      #3
      errr they never were outlawed except for about a week maybe

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      • street1356
        Registered User
        • Jun 2002
        • 121

        #4
        why would they be outlawed?


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        • billmi
          Tech Editor - WARPIG.com
          • May 2001
          • 810

          #5
          It was never the RT that was banned (at least from the NPPL, Pan Am, WPF and IAO) but rather runaway triggers that were banned, it just so happens that the guns which first were stopped for violating the ban happened to be RTs.

          At one NPPL event (Portland) the tournament's insurance requirements were changed in such a way, that RTs which had been made excessively reactive by shortining the on/off and or running an unusually high input pressure were not allowed on field. Once that was dealt with teams, for the most part, stopped setting up guns that way and it wasn't an issue.

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          • petefol
            Registered User
            • Mar 2002
            • 780

            #6
            you might have heard of the RT trigger for the m98, thats banned if im not mistaken.

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            • billmi
              Tech Editor - WARPIG.com
              • May 2001
              • 810

              #7
              Originally posted by petefol
              you might have heard of the RT trigger for the m98, thats banned if im not mistaken.
              I have heard of it, I own one, and it is legal in the NPPL, Pan Am, and IAO (no clue on what rules WPF is using now), and most major fields and tournaments.

              Like the Automag RT and ReTro, and E-Mag, it is possible to adjust it to the point where it is a runaway trigger, and that would not be legal, just like setting an Angel LCD to full auto would not be legal.

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              -Bill Mills

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              • heftylefty
                crazy asian
                • Jan 2003
                • 518

                #8
                What do you mean runaway trigger? Ive never heard of that saying before? A brief explination would be appreciated. thankx
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                • MagmanLee
                  Pball Fanatic
                  • Feb 2002
                  • 144

                  #9
                  Runnaway means the trigger is so reactive(kicks back so hard)that the gun becomes close to if not automatic without much effort.
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                  • billmi
                    Tech Editor - WARPIG.com
                    • May 2001
                    • 810

                    #10
                    Yep. It's the term that Bill Cookston (Ultimate Judge at the PSP tournaments) uses to describe a reactive trigger that is so reactive, that you can pull on it with a continuous effort and it will make your finger bounce back and forth to fire multiple shots. It's a pretty vague definition, because it depends a lot on the person pulling the trigger.

                    See you on the field,
                    -Bill Mills

                    Computer / Paintball geek
                    Technical Editor, World And Regional Paintball Information Guide - http://www.WARPIG.com
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                    • shartley
                      paintball player
                      • Mar 2001
                      • 9169

                      #11
                      Originally posted by billmi
                      Yep. It's the term that Bill Cookston (Ultimate Judge at the PSP tournaments) uses to describe a reactive trigger that is so reactive, that you can pull on it with a continuous effort and it will make your finger bounce back and forth to fire multiple shots. It's a pretty vague definition, because it depends a lot on the person pulling the trigger.

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                      • heftylefty
                        crazy asian
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 518

                        #12
                        Thanks for clearing it up for me.
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                        • FESTUS33
                          AO's Mad Gunsmith
                          • Oct 2002
                          • 851

                          #13
                          Here in Wisconsin We've alway's called it
                          Sweetspotting, because with the shortened
                          on/off pin you're trigger develops a
                          Sweet spot where the marker will just keep
                          shooting with no effort from the shooter.
                          Rick
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