WHY IS Every one wanting a cocker?

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  • hitmanng
    Slayer of Sacred Cows
    • Jan 2001
    • 1237

    #16
    Originally posted by magman007:
    I want one personally cuz it has an awesome trigger and i love the feel of it compared to the mag, dont get me wrong i love my mag but the cocker trigger is just intriguing! plus cockers are more "hot rodable" any ways what are your reasons?

    We like toys. I have a mag. The trigger intrigues me. I want a cocker too. Makes sense to me. Where is the Toymeister when you need him.
    Hitmanng



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    • nastymag
      XPSL D2/ Nppl D2
      • Dec 2000
      • 924

      #17
      well i bought a cocker about two months ago and now i want an automag
      its just i love the trigger but thats about it the accurcey is the same. and 3 way is leaking so i had to buy a whole bunch of line . i just like mags

      any body want my cocker
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      "I'm looking for an xmag in excellent or perfect condition. I have a black 2k3 mech cocker with Palmer everything (worth about US $800) I can trade, which is in excellent condition, well timed, reliable, and pinches all but the oldest super brittle paint." Flyboy771

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      • Maghog
        Mad Marker Maker

        • Jun 2001
        • 681

        #18
        "A sliding trigger for a mag.... now that I think about it, it wouldnt be that hard for a company to do.... hmmmmm..... very interesting...."-a_malfunction
        It would not be hard to do at all actually. I'm working on a sliding trigger for the E-mag, making one for the regular mag would be even more simple. Might be fun too.
        I have about eight hundred other projects to finish first but I'll keep that one in mind.
        Dan@Triggernomics

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        • slayer
          Registered User
          • May 2001
          • 669

          #19
          Originally posted by hitmanng:
          , dont get me wrong i love my mag but the cocker trigger is just intriguing!

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          We like toys. I have a mag. The trigger intrigues me. I want a cocker too. Makes sense to me. Where is the Toymeister when you need him.
          Hitmanng


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          There is a lot of intrigue but the trigger of a properly timed cocker intrigues me also. Quite a sexy feel or something. The only trigger I like more is my emag trigger.

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          • Whisky
            WHO? ME!
            • Feb 2001
            • 426

            #20
            I don`t like cockers personnaly, i just don`t like the feeling of the trigger.

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            • z-zero
              Signing paint Slinger
              • Aug 2001
              • 138

              #21
              I have had a 2k cocker for almost close to two years and the thing I didn't like the most about the gun was the trigger. I thought it was clunky and had lots of play, A frame upgrade would help but stock they just don't feel good to me. I'm in the process of selling my cocker for a Mag, going against what everybody I play with says. I just want a tournament level marker that I don't have to go out and constantly upgrade for the best performance. The best performance stock is the way I want it.

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              • -§on-
                Keepin' it Gangsta
                • Feb 2001
                • 1333

                #22
                Yes, I do like the Cockers trigger and the Cool sound they make, but I like Mags just as much as I do cockers. They do look cool, but it sucks when they dont work, ask XSPYX.

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                • mykroft
                  Registered User
                  • Jan 2001
                  • 2010

                  #23
                  Well, I've also owned both.
                  My hierarchy of triggers is such:

                  4. Stock Valve Mag
                  3. STO Cocker (45 frame and slotless plate)
                  2. Pivot frame cocker
                  1. ReTrovalve Mag

                  A well tuned cocker has a wonderfull trigger (Smooth like buttah) and is very reliabll, and timing a cocker takes about as long as replacing all the O-Rings in a Mag Valve for an experienced tech. They are excellent guns, but a lot less rod-able than you think as like the Mag, most of the best internals are made by WGP, in the cockers case you can't beat the STO front block, though you can get better than stock valves, hammers and bolts.

                  My personal setup, when I get my next cocker will be:

                  Black Magic Body Kit
                  KAPP milled front block (Chrome)
                  STO Sledgehammer Reg with Twister Kit
                  STO Ram
                  STO 4-Way
                  Belsales valve (I forget what they call it)
                  Rex Hammer Kit
                  Shocktech Superfly Bolt
                  Eclipse Pivot frame, or Benchy 45 frame with STO plate & Eclipse roller sear.
                  KAPP Beavertail & Cocking rod.
                  WGP Ergo Inline Reg

                  I'm still not to sure what I'm going to do about the triggerframes. And no this is not replacing a mag.

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                  • skipdogg
                    OG & HNIC
                    • Nov 2000
                    • 1392

                    #24
                    i dont want one.
                    OLD AO FEEDBACK

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                    • rickiweb
                      Guess what !! I got you
                      • May 2001
                      • 18

                      #25
                      Cockers...not for me , I own a mag now and it is by far the best gun I never had . I saw to many guys on the field having timing problems with cockers....I just like the trouble free of a mag and the easy maintenence which you don`t have on cockers.

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                      • Allen
                        Registered User
                        • Jun 2001
                        • 256

                        #26
                        First off, how do you know that is is hard to maintain when you have never had one? No more difficult than a mag.
                        I personally had a stock mag for a year, and loved it. Then I bought a Z-Grip and a 'cocker. Now I like 'cockers (the Z-Grip might be affecting my opinion). The first day with my cocker, I played better than I ever have; 2 flag hangs. I had only hung the flag once before, and now, twice in one day.
                        If you found a gun that helped you play better (This may not make sence, but think back to your last gun upgrade, like playing with a talon, then moving up to a M98. Not that 'cockers are that much better, but how much better you played with the M98.) would you use it? That is why I like 'cockers.

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                        • Micromag5371
                          Irrelevant Misguided Man
                          • Jul 2001
                          • 246

                          #27
                          I want an autococker because you have SO many aftermarket possibilities and its a very mechanical gun...i love to tinker with things, customize, and work with my hands. the trigger pull is very nice and smooth.



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                          • MagMan5446
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                            • Jun 2001
                            • 2572

                            #28
                            This is just like the Harley vs. Every other motorcycle.

                            "You ride on a motorcycle, but you ride in a Harley"

                            My uncle didn't like his harley, now he has a Honda Roadstar...he enjoys that a lot more.


                            I like cockers for customization, but I like the mag trigger better.

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                            • shartley
                              • Jun 2026

                              #29

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                              • Puckz
                                www.puckzparts.com
                                • May 2001
                                • 255

                                #30
                                I blame the internet for the "me too" fad surrounding paintball these days...

                                If you go to PBC you can see it in basically everyother post. Everyone wants something they can showoff to their "online" buddies. It's kinda funny really.

                                Why do you think AGD purchased AO, one of the best marketing ploys I've ever seen

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