Aaaaaahahaha! Ive Done It!

[darklord]

I think Footemps is on the right track. If you position your elbow so your forearm is vertical, move your ring and pinky fingers so they are clasping a grip, same with your thumb, and move your middle finger up and down you'll see the effect. The grip would be a lot better if it were curvaceous rather than the originally pictured grip...that just looks ugly.

[Jonneh]

I think people need to get their humor sensors fixed.

[Temo Vryce]

Personally I think that the G-Frame has a fair amount of potential. The design is a little strange, ok it's really strange, but then again so is the Z-Grip but how many of you would kill for a Z? No one can say with 100% certainty that it won't work. My opinion is that it won't work as well as Mag-Hater thinks it will but with an overhaul of the desgin I think that it could be a very fast design. As for the Horizontal fanning of the triger, sure it's fast, but your accuracy goes for a crap. It's pure "Spray and Pray".

Footemps - That's a great design and I think that it would be very comfortable to use.

Just because someone comes up with something that's different isn't a reason to dump on them and tell them it won't work "just because." We are members or AO, we are better than this. This is where players, owners, dealers, and manufacturers can come to get away from the hype, trolls, flames and general ignorance that you find on a lot of other forums. Help him to design something that you feel will work instead of following the crowd that just says, Nah.

[ronron2112]

Originally posted by Temo Vryce
Personally I think that the G-Frame has a fair amount of potential. The design is a little strange, ok it's really strange, but then again so is the Z-Grip but how many of you would kill for a Z? No one can say with 100% certainty that it won't work. My opinion is that it won't work as well as Mag-Hater thinks it will but with an overhaul of the desgin I think that it could be a very fast design. As for the Horizontal fanning of the triger, sure it's fast, but your accuracy goes for a crap. It's pure "Spray and Pray".

Footemps - That's a great design and I think that it would be very comfortable to use.

Just because someone comes up with something that's different isn't a reason to dump on them and tell them it won't work "just because." We are members or AO, we are better than this. This is where players, owners, dealers, and manufacturers can come to get away from the hype, trolls, flames and general ignorance that you find on a lot of other forums. Help him to design something that you feel will work instead of following the crowd that just says, Nah.

but he put up a design, we're giving input, we're not flaming him, or dumping on him..

[FutureMagOwner]

lol i just noticed that footemps idea looks similar to the classic timmy frames

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Temo Vryce

Just because someone comes up with something that's different isn't a reason to dump on them and tell them it won't work "just because." We are members or AO, we are better than this. This is where players, owners, dealers, and manufacturers can come to get away from the hype, trolls, flames and general ignorance that you find on a lot of other forums. Help him to design something that you feel will work instead of following the crowd that just says, Nah.

The classic "I've come here to save the day in shiny armor." Except I don't see one person flaming him except for squid but he figured it out. I simply wanted to tell him to think about what others have to say because they are trying to help. Look at brak, he was probably on to something, but mag-hatter insisted his design would work without even having a model(just make a simple one out or cardboard and see how it works with the sear) which ties up with the other thing I was trying to tell him. He needs a model before so he does not have to assume.

[FooTemps]

Originally posted by FutureMagOwner
lol i just noticed that footemps idea looks similar to the classic timmy frames

LOL, you JUST noticed? That's where I got my inspiration for the idea...

[FutureMagOwner]

lol at the time i also "just saw it" for the first time

[JEDI]

Sorry man, looks like crap. Ten pounds of useless metal doesn't do any thing for me.

swed

[mag-hatter]

[FooTemps]

I tried to paint a hand in the position I invisioned.

[mag-hatter]

alright. here's a new trigger design for the gframe. im going to start working on making the gframe itself better after i post this, but tell me what you think and i can improve.

#1: this is pretty complicated so bear with me. what is shown is a pin that is used to let the trigger "swing" like on a regular frame, for vertical shooting, and in front of the pin, is a spring that would let the trigger go side to side like on an autococker trigger. therefore, you could go horiz. and cause it to slide and shoot faster that way.

#2: you are looking at a "coupling joint" style here. it shows a second spring that would push the trigger back into firing position if you were firing horizontaly, like the cocker frame.

#3: this is the sear. dont know why i labled it .

#4: this is the other side of the "coupling joint" that has a lower, hollow space that allows up and down movement (vert firing), but pushes against the spring to return the trigger (if you were firing horizontaly).

#5: this shows the horiz. part of the trigger. it is double sided, like a "Y" so you your finger has something to pull against from both sides. it has the roller part on it as well as the vert trigger.

tell me what you think. i believe this trigger system, while complicated, will eleminate most or even all firing problems.

[mag-hatter]

sorry, here's the picture :P

[ronron2112]

wow you got some mad drawing skill..

the devised one looks alot better drawn with more detail, but im still a lil skeptical withthe horz. triggers..

[mag-hatter]

here's a new picture with more shaven off of it, and with a drop on it so you can use the bottom of the grip as support.

the design will also help it accept alot of foregrips.