runaway/ sweetspotting?

[yeahthatsme]

ok, i here these terms used alot in reference to mag triggers, so what do they mean? i need a very exact description as that is usually the only way i get things. thanks.

[Jonesie]

Runaway is when you set the input pressure to the valve so high that you can hold your finger still and have the trigger bouce back and forth, firing the marker, because of the reactivity of the valve, not the movement of the finger.

I THINK sweetspotting is the same thing, but I'm not 100% sure about that...?

Later ~ Jonesie

[digitard]

Yeah,
Sweetspotting is pretty much the same thing ... where you get the reactivity so high that after holding it in a certain point it goes full auto.

Its illegal to do either in tourny's .... one pull one shot

Sincerely,
Dave K

[Evil Bob]

"Runaway" is the marker firing on its own without any additional input from you, meaning you are no longer pulling the trigger and it continues to fire all by itself, a very dangerous situation as you are no longer in control, you pull the trigger once and it doesn't stop firing.

"Sweetspotting" is going full auto by holding your finger in "the sweetspot" and letting full reactivity do it's thing. Here it stops firing when you release the trigger.

-Evil Bob

[Strider]

What is the test they use at NPPL (Or other) tournaments to test for Sweetspotting?

[Jack & Coke]

Evil Bob is CORRECT! Great explaination...

Click here to see a video clip of a "run-away" gun. This gun (real) is an example of what "run-away" is, not "sweetspotting". Most poeple get these two terms mixed up.

[Evil Bob]

Used to get M60 machine gun runaways on the live fire ranges when I was stationed in Germany with the US Army.

Anyone who has ever fired one, knows the M60 heats up fast. Basicly what happens is they over heat and start cooking off the chambered rounds, firing by heating the bullet casings. Anyone who is familiar with the M60 knows it happens quite frequently and is prepared for it. Basicly you keep aiming at your target and your assitant gunner shouts "runaway" and twists the ammo belt 20-30 rounds out to break the links, then you just sit there and control the beast as it runs through the remaining ammo on the now shorter belt.

Runaways with real firearms are extremely dangerous, people tend to panic and shoot their friends with it without thinking. The best way to deal with a runaway is to keep your head and keep the thing pointed in a safe direction and do what you can to kill the power source (turn off airline, unscrew the HPA bottle, break the ammo belt, etc.).

-Evil Bob

[rdb123]

Evil Bob, great info.
-Ron

[Miscue]

Mag runaway is typically induced and sustained purposely. Stock setup with recommended input won't do this.

How people check at tournys:

Officials can check your gun, and play with your trigger. If they say 'nope' it's a no go. RobAGD knows about this.

[Evil Bob]

You know of people who purposely induce a runaway and then feed it? I'm sure it could easily be done on any marker with user programmable modes, just setup a 1000 round burst, activate it, and dump paint in at the appropriate time.

Very bizaar, adds new meaning to spray and pray. This just adds another reason why user programmable modes should disappear.

-Evil Bob