Y-Frame First Look

[Mossman]

I've got beef with it.
Look at Shadow's Pic above.
Think about holding it, its a little brother to the Z grip.

Now hold your hand like you're shooting a 45. Now rotate your hand, but not your shooting fingers, 30* so they're at the Y grip angle. What the hell are your shooting fingers doing? They need to move too!

I feel like if you move the placement of your bottom fingers but not the shooting fingers you're gonna hurt rather than help the frame design.

This is a mini Z grip, and the trigger angle and positioning needs to follow its big brother...at least 1/3 of the way

[Blennidae]

This will probably be unpopular, but here it goes...

I guess I'm just old fashioned. I just don't see this as something that would work for me.

Everyone seems to want a new "z-grip" type frame, but I don't ever see anything simillar on the field. The original has been out for years, so there has been plenty of time for the knock off makers to make simillar products. If there was a real high demand for this style of grip, wouldn't there be more of them out there?

I don't think this would be the runaway hit that the L10 and Intelliframe were.

As for the original question about the grips. I don't think you will be able to please everyone. If you don't make it compatible with dye grips, someone will complain. If you change the design to fit them, someone will complain about the functionality.

Just my opinion.

[Smitty2k1]

Are you going to make the front of the finger guard be a bit further back than the I-Frame so there is no interference with the Fore-Grips? Also, these are intellifeedable (<--- if thats a word ) Right?

[BTAutoMag]

Originally posted by Mossman
I've got beef with it.
Look at Shadow's Pic above.
Think about holding it, its a little brother to the Z grip.

Now hold your hand like you're shooting a 45. Now rotate your hand, but not your shooting fingers, 30* so they're at the Y grip angle. What the hell are your shooting fingers doing? They need to move too!

I feel like if you move the placement of your bottom fingers but not the shooting fingers you're gonna hurt rather than help the frame design.

This is a mini Z grip, and the trigger angle and positioning needs to follow its big brother...at least 1/3 of the way

i agree, tilt the trigger a little bit so that it follows the line of the frame

[Shadow221]

Hmm...you make good points. I'll try and revise my idea. Perhaps I can come up with something that'll work better.

[Tunaman]

I dont like it at all...too close to the z grip. I say go with a straight 90 degree like the IR3. THAT would look cool, and I bet the grips would still work. Just my 49 cents...

[luke]

Looks Good. DYE grips are not that important. Build it.

[pito189]

Originally posted by Tunaman
I dont like it at all...too close to the z grip. I say go with a straight 90 degree like the IR3. THAT would look cool, and I bet the grips would still work. Just my 49 cents...

I agree I would buy a 90* frame in a heartbeat. I spoke e-mailed the guy I think from fearfactorypb, and he said putting a Ir3 frame on an E-Mag wouldn't be that hard. Does anybody know if the holes even line up?

[JAM]

Originally posted by Tunaman
I dont like it at all...too close to the z grip. I say go with a straight 90 degree like the IR3. THAT would look cool, and I bet the grips would still work. Just my 49 cents...

I'll add my $.01 to Tunaman's suggestion... 90 degrees would give the most flexibility in shooting style.

-j

[rikkter]

i agree with Tuna. its just a smaller version of the z grip.. i was kinda expecting it to be very similar to the ir3 grip.

also. why not kinda have a shrowd type grip. like have part of the grip on the back part as well. shaped like a palm or however someoneholds the gun in that position so it would be very comfortable..
hope that made sense..

[luke]

I don't quite understand by what you mean the distance to the trigger? Just move the bottom back, make it like 85-89* or something like that if you are trying to avoid patent infringements.

I do believe Tom owns the patent.

[mtnkid82]

im for the 90* too

Im also for the 90* angle too. I would buy a 90* frame in a heartbeat ! then you wouldnt have to mess w/ the angle of the trigger .and I say go for the panel grips. just putting in me .37 cents :c)
PS I cant wait to put one of these on my baby !!!!!

[AcemanPB]

I was hoping for something more along the lines of the IR3 frame. So yeah I too agree with tuna. You really need to round out the frame.

[EsPo]

looking good! msrp?

[confedman75]

channel

Why can't you just channel it? By getting a box cutter and cut down the middle where the grips are sealed at. So that the guard can go through the grip. Would there be any problems with that? Tom why can you just drill the holes in the grip differantly so they line up with the grip. Stop being so stubborn